Is this a "Putrid Attitude"

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by Socialite

Like MB, I get nervous whenever candidates start talking faith in a public setting, as they are announced "here comes the Sen/Representative of _____."

In a sense we are all brothers. All brothers of Adam, sharing life together. In the sense of being the family of God, one is born into this family by faith in Jesus. I think it's important to see yourself as a family in both senses though. Jesus, on his mission, did not view his relationship as one far off. He personally identified with us as part of the human family, whom he was on mission to redeem.

Socialite, I agree to some point. As we can see it can be polarizing regardless of your view. Note the emphasis on regardless. Given the actual setting of this event (church) though I see no reason why the Gov. would not express his Christian tendencies. At such an event this is expected IMHO to a nominal degree at the very least. I would certainly not prefer one who hides his beliefs. Do you? Would you expect a Muslim politician to go to a Mosque and pretend as though he is not a Muslim? Christian beliefs are not directly or inherently incompatible with our American system and should not serve any problem apart from the hype.

[Socialite]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUFPMIGmL3c

What if this was Romney waxing eloquent about the Mormon faith at a White House Press Conference after becoming President? Or another candidate declaring all who don't believe in Allah to be infidels?

Just seems like it's better done outside the scope of their office.

[Socialite]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

Socialite, I agree to some point. As we can see it can be polarizing regardless of your view. Note the emphasis on regardless. Given the actual setting of this event (church) though I see no reason why the Gov. would not express his Christian tendencies. At such an event this is expected IMHO to a nominal degree at the very least. I would certainly not prefer one who hides his beliefs. Do you? Would you expect a Muslim politician to go to a Mosque and pretend as though he is not a Muslim? Christian beliefs are not directly or inherently incompatible with our American system and should not serve any problem apart from the hype.

JN, you don't have to hide who you are by avoiding statements like "you aren't my brother." Was there any secret that this many was a Christian? Was it really that hidden before?

There's ways people know we are followers of Christ, and it doesn't always take a public announcement to the masses. Off-line, in cabinet sessions, in car and plane rides, he has plenty of times to talk about his faith to those he intimately is sharing life with.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by Socialite

What was the question?

Hearing this type of rhetoric over a podium that bears the state of Alabama's seal, an official capacity of office... I can understand why it bothers a lot of people.

Originally Posted by MissBrattified

Who asked the governor a question and what was it?

I apologize. I should have been more clear. I was referring to anyone who is asked a question not necessarily a politician. I was labeled as being a hardliner and having a "putrid attitude" for stating my beliefs on another thread after being asked them repeatedly. I was just wondering if you guys saw any problem with those type of statements of belief? Not necessarily if you would agree or disagree. But isn't it a good thing to state our beliefs and acknowledge our disagreements? I feel like we can but it seems nowadays disagreement is equated to violence or personal attacks. We accuse each other or label each other as "attacking" or "putrid" or a person now a "victim" etc.? Dialog is important and so are our beliefs.

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by Socialite

JN, you don't have to hide who you are by avoiding statements like "you aren't my brother." Was there any secret that this many was a Christian? Was it really that hidden before?

There's ways people know we are followers of Christ, and it doesn't always take a public announcement to the masses. Off-line, in cabinet sessions, in car and plane rides, he has plenty of times to talk about his faith to those he intimately is sharing life with.

You are right there. But, was the Gov. in a cabinet meeting; a car; plane; a restaurant even? No. He was at a church. A Christian house of worship. I think this is to be expected. Again, I ask you. Do you expect a Muslim politician to attend a Mosque and pretend as though he is not a Muslim?

[JN Anderson]

Originally Posted by Socialite

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUFPMIGmL3c

What if this was Romney waxing eloquent about the Mormon faith at a White House Press Conference after becoming President? Or another candidate declaring all who don't believe in Allah to be infidels?

Just seems like it's better done outside the scope of their office.

Romney is entitled to his beliefs. So would a Muslim. I would disagree with both of them though and you probably would too. This doesn't mean they can't be good politicians, scientists, doctors, or lawyers etc. If there character and beliefs amounted to a threat of American freedoms then of course there would be justifiable recourse. This is the principle of what it means for us as Americans to be free. Our freedom however does not go unchecked if or when it violates and destroys the freedom of other human beings. This is so no matter if you wave the Cross on your flag or the half moon and scimitar.

[Sabby]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

"Anybody here today who has not accepted Jesus Christ as their savior, I'm telling you, you're not my brother and you're not my sister, and I want to be your brother," Bentley said Monday, his inauguration day, according to The Birmingham News.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/01/18...#ixzz1BTHnNtZS

People are WAAY too touchy about this. It is no big deal. He probably should have said "brother in the Lord".The host audience knew exactly what he meant; he was identifying with fellow christian believers! BIG DEAL!
I don't get the impression that he created a different standard of treatment for Christians over non-christians, in spite of the howling from jews or muslims. Their protests are really disguised efforts at silencing all mention of Christ in the political arena. The last thing I want my elected officials to do is bow to the politically correct environment. Right on, Gov Bentley!

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I apologize. I should have been more clear. I was referring to anyone who is asked a question not necessarily a politician. I was labeled as being a hardliner and having a "putrid attitude" for stating my beliefs on another thread after being asked them repeatedly. I was just wondering if you guys saw any problem with those type of statements of belief? Not necessarily if you would agree or disagree. But isn't it a good thing to state our beliefs and acknowledge our disagreements? I feel like we can but it seems nowadays disagreement is equated to violence or personal attacks. We accuse each other or label each other as "attacking" or "putrid" or a person now a "victim" etc.? Dialog is important and so are our beliefs.

Even though this was a church setting, the governor was there in capacity as a politician, and therefore his statements were unwise, even if he sincerely meant them.

In that context, it's best for him to remain neutral. In the context of a religious or casual discussion, there is value in answering questions that are asked--of course.

I don't agree that his attitude is "putrid."

I don't have any bad *feelings* toward the governor for his statement; to me, it comes across as an ignorant and poorly executed attempt to express his loyalty to his Christian base, and not necessarily his loyalty to God. That's my cynicism peeking through....

[Cindy]

We can see his heart, right? And government trumps God.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by JN Anderson

I apologize. I should have been more clear. I was referring to anyone who is asked a question not necessarily a politician. I was labeled as being a hardliner and having a "putrid attitude" for stating my beliefs on another thread after being asked them repeatedly. I was just wondering if you guys saw any problem with those type of statements of belief? Not necessarily if you would agree or disagree. But isn't it a good thing to state our beliefs and acknowledge our disagreements? I feel like we can but it seems nowadays disagreement is equated to violence or personal attacks. We accuse each other or label each other as "attacking" or "putrid" or a person now a "victim" etc.? Dialog is important and so are our beliefs.

Thanks JN. I didn't see the other "putridness" and failed to make any connection with other discussions.