Bott 2011 - Page 3

Jason B · #21 01-19-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

Sponsors are the preachers who get invited to put some money down and get a platform seat, before and after fellowship at the mangun's home, backstage entrance and reserved parking......they are handpicked by the BOTT committee and the sponsor price used to be like $5000. This is how they pay for a bunch of the confernece costs.

Just like James instructed us to do

shag · #22 01-19-2011, 09:21 PM

Luke 11:43

DAII · #23 01-20-2011, 05:28 AM

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Originally Posted by shag

Luke 11:43

Are these men spending their own money to buy these seats or do they have their churches pay the cost? Same happened with the famous shoe auction for 10,000 dollar office conversation pieces .

These are the same men who in their secular politics criticize a nation which spends money it does not have as they amen the blowhard on their transistor radio.

If you can't afford to have a conference or two speakers - here's an idea- don't have it/them.

Very easy to spend some else's money for such largess. The 10 percent of the restaurant or retail worker who is barely scraping by.

aegsm76 · #24 01-20-2011, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Are these men spending their own money to buy these seats or do they have their churches pay the cost? Same happened with the famous shoe auction for 10,000 dollar office conversation pieces .

These are the same men who in their secular politics criticize a nation which spends money it does not have as they amen the blowhard on their transistor radio.

If you can't afford to have a conference or two speakers - here's an idea- don't have it/them.

Very easy to spend some else's money for such largess. The 10 percent of the restaurant or retail worker who is barely scraping by.

Don Quixote - quit wasting your efforts on these small windmills! There are larger ones to tilt against! Shall I saddle Rocinante or will you fight them on foot?
Your faithful squire, Sancho.

Socialite · #25 01-20-2011, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Rose

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcvYNm_Dr5k

Rose, thanks for posting this cell phone video.

Any others?

scotty · #26 01-20-2011, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

Don Quixote - quit wasting your efforts on these small windmills! There are larger ones to tilt against! Shall I saddle Rocinante or will you fight them on foot?
Your faithful squire, Sancho.

ROFL !!

triumphant1 · #27 01-20-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Socialite

Rose, thanks for posting this cell phone video.

Any others?

Yes... the video was great! Brings back a ton of memories from my many trips to BOTT. If you can post more vids, please do.

DAII · #28 01-20-2011, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by aegsm76

Don Quixote - quit wasting your efforts on these small windmills! There are larger ones to tilt against! Shall I saddle Rocinante or will you fight them on foot?
Your faithful squire, Sancho.

Alas Sancho, this one is a dragon that pilfers on the people of God ... hand me my sword. You stay and watch the grass grow.

triumphant1 · #29 01-20-2011, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DAII

Are these men spending their own money to buy these seats or do they have their churches pay the cost? Same happened with the famous shoe auction for 10,000 dollar office conversation pieces .

These are the same men who in their secular politics criticize a nation which spends money it does not have as they amen the blowhard on their transistor radio.

If you can't afford to have a conference or two speakers - here's an idea- don't have it/them.

Very easy to spend some else's money for such largess. The 10 percent of the restaurant or retail worker who is barely scraping by.

I don't have a problem with the churches donating the money for the conference. Our church partnered with another confernence several years. It wasn't $5000 but it was $1500. I got some perks like seats, green room, group meals as the sponsoring pastor.

The deal is, does the church know they are sponsoring it? Our's did...we took up an offering. So if it's on the up and up, nothing underhanded has been done. I would bet every church that has a sponsoring pastor knows they are a BOTT sponsor! It's a prestigious deal in the UPC to be a part of that crowd--even for the church. I have had more than one saint say, "My pastor and our church are sponsors of BOTT..."

Many conferences outside of the UPC charge $200 or more per registerant in order to pull it off financially--with a minimum of 500-1000 people registered. Especially for a three night/two day deal. BOTT doesn't charge that...and for many years it was an unregistered free for all depending solely on sponsors and offerings. Without the sponsors, the cost would make it impossible to have putting all the burden on POA.

DAII · #30 01-20-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by triumphant1

I don't have a problem with the churches donating the money for the conference. Our church partnered with another confernence several years. It wasn't $5000 but it was $1500. I got some perks like seats, green room, group meals as the sponsoring pastor.

The deal is, does the church know they are sponsoring it? Our's did...we took up an offering. So if it's on the up and up, nothing underhanded has been done. I would bet every church that has a sponsoring pastor knows they are a BOTT sponsor! It's a prestigious deal in the UPC to be a part of that crowd--even for the church. I have had more than one saint say, "My pastor and our church are sponsors of BOTT..."

Many conferences outside of the UPC charge $200 or more per registerant in order to pull it off financially--with a minimum of 500-1000 people registered. Especially for a three night/two day deal. BOTT doesn't charge that...and for many years it was an unregistered free for all depending solely on sponsors and offerings. Without the sponsors, the cost would make it impossible to have putting all the burden on POA.

Big difference. However, how easy it is it to say no to the pastor?