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Old 05-21-2011, 06:25 AM
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Re: Obama Throws Israel Under the Bus

Obama declared Thursday that the borders of Israel and a Palestinian state must be based on 1967 lines.
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Old 05-21-2011, 11:53 AM
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Re: Obama Throws Israel Under the Bus

There is a difference between Jewish and Being a Zionist.God loves all people the same.
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Old 05-21-2011, 02:36 PM
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There is a difference between Jewish and Being a Zionist.God loves all people the same.
The distinction is hard to distinguish.
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Old 05-21-2011, 08:35 PM
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Re: Obama Throws Israel Under the Bus

Just some educated notes about Zionism. Zionism is not simply a desire to give Jews their homeland. Zionism is a secularization of the thought of Jews. In reality, if you talk to orthodox Jews, a Jew is not a race but a religious adherent to Judaism. It's like the term Pentecostal, or even Christian, or Hindu or Buddhist. It is a religious term. Zionism changed that term into a racial term and removed the religious sense from it. Religion is, in their eyes, only a small part of being a Jew and a Jew can take Judaism or leave it. However, without Judaism a person cannot be a Jew. Hitler actually popularized the idea that Jews are people of a certain race.

And Zionism claims Israel should have their land based purely upon secular terms with nothing to do with God and the Bible.

The religious orthodox Jews have a website called http://jewsagainstzionism.com and they are trying to correct the world about this.

So there is far more to Zionism than simply wanting Jews to have their land.

I think Jews should have their land. But Zionism is stripping the Old Testament and Judaism away from the thought of being a Jew and has secularized the entire concept. Zionism removes God from the Jew.
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Re: Obama Throws Israel Under the Bus

There is a distinction,many non Jews are Zionist and many Jews are against Zionism.
I would welcome some kind discussion with you on the matter.
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How is Obama a zionist when he wants to return to the old borders?
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Old 05-21-2011, 02:51 PM
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Israel does a right to exist as a nation.But alot of the international banking institutions control things in the political realms.Alot of these politicans talk out of both sides of their mouths.
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Israel does a right to exist as a nation.But alot of the international banking institutions control things in the political realms.Alot of these politicans talk out of both sides of their mouths.
what do international banks have to do with zionism? What do the care?
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Who funds wars ?
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Who funds wars ?
What does that have to do with zionism? Zionism is not about starting wars. Zionism is about a movement to restore Israel to the Jews

Why then attribute it to zionism and not to radical Islam?
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