true christians are concerned about outreach, the poor, homeless, widow and orphans(like the democratic party). politicians would compromise thheir beleifs when they pass laws to support campaign contributors and not their true convictions. true politicians are about governing with all the dirty compromise involved and not concerned with religous conviction. imo
Question for you... Do liberals or conservatives give more to the poor?
Repeated studies have shown conservatives give more across the board.
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I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Pel, I agree with you that politicians are called in their vocation, but how can a true christian who cares for spreading the gospel, the poor etc, be a politician who owes their allegiance to campaign contributors? wouldn't we see the kingdom of God on earth if politicians were true christians? what did we get with Bush? 2 unpaid wars, tax breaks for the rich, where were his christian values?
Wars, can and do save lives, the fact that they are unpaid does not mean they are unnecessary at times.
Do tax breaks "for the rich" result in less poverty and more jobs for the poor? There is a lot of evidence that suggests just that.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
Question for you... Do liberals or conservatives give more to the poor?
Repeated studies have shown conservatives give more across the board.
conservative individuals may give more than liberals, but liberal governments do more for the poor than conservative ones. I think overrall, a liberal government can do more than conservative individuals.
__________________ "It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
how many jobs did the Bush tax cuts create, which Obama continued? Can you post some stats? I think it's a conservative myth.
Can't post overall stats, but I have stated this before. Our company grew 14% on average every year during the Bush tax cuts, we expanded, bought more equipment, hired more people. We haven't bought anything since Obama took office. They are scared. Afraid of whats going to have to be paid when they raise the taxes again. And they will.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
according to 2Tim 2:4 "No man that warreth entangleth himself with the affairs of this life"
this is a clear admonition of true disciples becoming politicians, imo
eph 6:15 says "and your feet shod with the preparation of the gospel of peace"
how can the commander and chief of the military practice peace and turn the other cheek?
imo, politicians are not true disciples of christ, but use religion for tactical gains in popularity. Perry is no different.[/LEFT]
I would think that Joseph and Daniel would be examples of men serving in a heathen government, of which we have partially (LOL), and who maintained their integrity before God.
Entangled means to entwine. And I think verse 5 is very much the key and answer to verse 4 - "if a man also strives for the mastery (contends in a competitive game) he needs to strive lawfully (agreeably with the rules lined out)". Our Constituion is a grand set of rules. Couple that with the Word of God and you have a prized civil servant.
I would humbly suggest that if we are going to use such a liberal interpretation of the passage, then anyone with a mortgage has entangled themselves as well....
in fact there is more bible against mortgages than there is about being involved in politics.
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I would further suggest that if we are going to go with the notion that we should not vote for christians running for high office, we should not vote either because it is equal to the passage quoted... if we are going to go with this as the meaning of the passage.
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