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08-27-2011, 11:01 PM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by Narrow Is The Way
We are going in circles here. You are not seeing my point.
Anyhow, we are in this world but not of this world.
If I change my use of the words Monday and Tuesday, etc. Will you then say that I am consistent and that a wedding ring is a sin, or did you just use that as a decoy because you are stumped and don't know how to combat the issue?
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Yes, I was saying you would be consistent. But you showed how silly it is to refuse a ring due to pagan origins when you stated there is nothing wrong with naming the names of months and days.
Such consistency would still be stupid, though, because it's demanding the accusation of idolatry upon someone when that person had no intent of honouring any false god whatsoever. It's like the ridiculous claim that a person is worshiping a christmas tree since they are merely bending over in front of it to pick a gift up from underneath it. It;s not worship, -- it's bending over to pick something up.
Extreme legalism is when someone is accused of worshiping a false god when no such intention is in their hearts whatsoever. That is the implication given about rings. It's nuts.
Just by the fact you blew off the month and day thing tells me you KNOW pagan associations with certain things is really insignificant unless one consciously worships the false gods.
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08-28-2011, 06:55 AM
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Re: History of Rings
Have many that wear wedding rings in our church. Do i think of them as less of a Christian than me? No. Do i agree with wearing jewelry (including a wedding ring)? No. Not throwing stones here. Just thought some of you might appreciate some information. If not, that's none of my business.
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08-28-2011, 06:59 AM
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Re: History of Rings
I didn't read all of the opening posts. Too much information, and some of it confusing.
BTW KFJ, if you post copied material you must name the source.
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08-28-2011, 07:16 AM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
where did the wedding ceremony come from? The bible? What if your wedding was pagan?
Birthdays?
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Most funeral traditions, also.
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08-28-2011, 07:56 AM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
Have many that wear wedding rings in our church. Do i think of them as less of a Christian than me? No. Do i agree with wearing jewelry (including a wedding ring)? No. Not throwing stones here. Just thought some of you might appreciate some information. If not, that's none of my business.
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Thanks Kclee, for sharing. I have no serious problem with those who do not wear rings nor even entire churches who practice not wearing rings and jewellery.
When my immediate family gets together with their kids (about 80) my wife and I are among the few that wear rings. Everyone respects each other - and I think that is key. As you said, it really makes no one less Christian in any way at all.
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08-28-2011, 08:22 AM
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Re: History of Rings
Rings are very sinful. For example, look what a ring did to this guy
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08-28-2011, 10:44 AM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by kclee4jc
Have many that wear wedding rings in our church. Do i think of them as less of a Christian than me? No. Do i agree with wearing jewelry (including a wedding ring)? No. Not throwing stones here. Just thought some of you might appreciate some information. If not, that's none of my business.
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While I don't agree with it, I have a lot more respect for your views on this now.
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08-28-2011, 12:12 PM
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Re: History of Rings
I grew up in a group that was very much against EVERYTHING. Rings, Christmas trees, competitive sports, Easter eggs, television, you name it they were against it because it was not GODLY.
Okay that being said
1: I think the use of the words by peter to the man saying "silver and gold have I none..." had more to do with the fact that when he did have it he had better things to do with it than make it into a ring. It wasn't probably because they were against it but they were pretty POOR. They left everything to spread the gospel to the world.
2: why would God have created such things if he did not want us to put them to use in some way shape of form? As long as you are not letting it come between you and God or even to come BEFORE God then who cares if you are wearing gold, silver, diamonds, rubies, etc.?
3: I watched as I grew up and I still see it today, these ones who are so against the wearing of jewelry and dresses 4+ inches below the knee, sleeves to the wrist, etc and many of them (not all but many) wear their clothes pretty tight. I see their wives garments hugging their figures more than and tighter than I see them actually hug their wives and kids. I see the handbags they pay $500 to $1000 for. I see the shoes, the name brands, the OTHER status symbols.
Sorry but I will stick to knowing my GOD for me and doing everything in modesty and moderation as GOD leads me and guides me.
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08-28-2011, 12:26 PM
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Re: History of Rings
Col 2
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
21( Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22 Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?
23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
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08-28-2011, 12:31 PM
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Re: History of Rings
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Originally Posted by TGBTG
Col 2
18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
19And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.
20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,
21( Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22 Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?
23Which things have indeed a shew of wisdom in will worship, and humility, and neglecting of the body: not in any honour to the satisfying of the flesh.
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I'm not quite sure the point of this. What would be your modern English commentary on what you just posted?
(And this is aimed at everyone who often post a serious of scriptures with no clarification.)
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