Is it acceptable to "lay out a fleece" before God

[rgcraig]

Originally Posted by Bella1

I truly broke my heart when Raymond would not help care for Cameron these three years. Although I still love him dearly, true colors do shine through at difficult time like these. Now that Cameron is 18 and has started college, I would not be getting anything but insurance reimburements anyway. For that I am thankful. (although at this time the Attorney General stopped the insurance payments until we go to court. That is one of the reasons I am hurting financially.)

It's very sad. I can't believe the AG stopped the insurance payments until you go to court - you'd think he'd leave things as is until you went to court.

God's faithful.

[houston]

if she wants to kill a lamb... more power to her...

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by Bella1

Just knowing that I am talking to you all on line has gotten my physically sick. I have no trust in NO ONE right now. I have totally closed off even my closest friends, due to all the hurt I have endured. I KNOW God will heal me, just in His time. That is one of the things I am trusting in HIM for. But I have had such horrible hurt from church people that I cannot open my soul to anyone. I trust my pastor (he has helped me with my son) but I can't tell him personal things.

your a wounded worshiper, one of the most hurtfull things is when it comes from your own. the bad part is when we bottle up and let know one in.


Your in the starting phase of depression sister, and i know how bad that can be. Praise works wonders for this, Continue to pray but dont stop to seek.


there is a story about a man. He was Caught in a great storm. the area was beginning to flood. He prayed God rescue me.

Soon one of his family members pulled up said get into the car its started to flood we need to get out of here. The man replied NO, God will rescue me.

Finally the water was is his house, about 4 feet deep. a man came by in a row boat, hurry man getinto the BoaT!! . The man said NO SIR! God will rescue me.

finally the man was forced to crawl onto his roof, and a helicopter came by. Grab the rope, said the voice from the helicopter, but the man said GO AWAY GOD WILL SAVE ME.

eventually the man died, drowned in the current. He stood before God and said Lord why didnt you come and save me? God said i came to you 3 times, the car, the boat, and the helicopter, but you refused my help.


Remember God uses those around you to help you, it may never be like what you had pictured, but non the less God works through His Children.

God Bless

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by houston

if she wants to kill a lamb... more power to her...

obvious you never put one out on your own. and he put out a fleece, he didnt sloughter a lamb

[RandyWayne]

Originally Posted by Bella1

Just knowing that I am talking to you all on line has gotten my physically sick. I have no trust in NO ONE right now. I have totally closed off even my closest friends, due to all the hurt I have endured. I KNOW God will heal me, just in His time. That is one of the things I am trusting in HIM for. But I have had such horrible hurt from church people that I cannot open my soul to anyone. I trust my pastor (he has helped me with my son) but I can't tell him personal things.

I probably understand where you are coming from here more than most. God has taken care of me my whole life, but I only see His hand in extreme hindsight. The ever present "Footsteps" poster is really true although a bit deceiving in that it makes it look like God vanishes and hardships last days and weeks, when in fact they usually last years and decades. I see exactly what God was doing and saving me from during my 20's and early 30's.

Also, He helped me through some very suicidal times during my teen years when I was dealing with a very conservative church and horrible days in school. He never took away my depression..... but just gave me the strength to deal with it on most days. I can even see WHY he did this now (most of the time) because it is part of what makes up my personality. I've used this quote many times when talking on this subject, but as Captain James Kirk once said "I need my pain", when given the opportunity to have it removed.

[houston]

Originally Posted by acerrak

obvious you never put one out on your own.

don't need to

[Bella1]

Originally Posted by acerrak

your a wounded worshiper, one of the most hurtfull things is when it comes from your own. the bad part is when we bottle up and let know one in.


Your in the starting phase of depression sister, and i know how bad that can be. Praise works wonders for this, Continue to pray but dont stop to seek.


there is a story about a man. He was Caught in a great storm. the area was beginning to flood. He prayed God rescue me.

Soon one of his family members pulled up said get into the car its started to flood we need to get out of here. The man replied NO, God will rescue me.

Finally the water was is his house, about 4 feet deep. a man came by in a row boat, hurry man getinto the BoaT!! . The man said NO SIR! God will rescue me.

finally the man was forced to crawl onto his roof, and a helicopter came by. Grab the rope, said the voice from the helicopter, but the man said GO AWAY GOD WILL SAVE ME.

eventually the man died, drowned in the current. He stood before God and said Lord why didnt you come and save me? God said i came to you 3 times, the car, the boat, and the helicopter, but you refused my help.


Remember God uses those around you to help you, it may never be like what you had pictured, but non the less God works through His Children.

God Bless

I don't see myself as being depressed, although others do. My personality has TOTALLY changed from all of this. I used to be a dare devil, laugh in your face, tell you what I thought kind of person. Now, I rarely smile, I don't go any where with anyone, and I no longer have the need to tell you everything about me or my life. I was a front row, praise till you drop type of person and now I sit and watch. I still worship, don't get me wrong.I am just much more reserved. My walk with the Lord is deeper now I think. I don't just take someone at their word. And yes, as you can tell I do have a trust issue.

I have a friend and her husband that helps me when I need it. I just don't like asking for help unless I really need it. I try and do what I can for myself.

And I am learning to be alone. This has taken some getting used to. I was always surrounded by people. Now....no one. AND guess what? It is okay to be alone!

[Trouvere]

Originally Posted by Bella1

And I feel like I am not trusting God for some reason. I just don't want friends or church members to supply THIS need. I am sure you all understand. I need it to come from out of nowhere from a GOD SOURCE.

Sister don't give up. Jesus will supply the need. It may just be that you need to put some fasting and prayer and warfare behind that because the enemy is hindering.

[acerrak]

Originally Posted by houston

don't need to

that doesnt mean others cant.....

[in1accord]

Originally Posted by Bella1

I have been praying and praying for it seems like forever, for this process to be over. There are so many things that I need (not want) so that I can live and pay bills and take care of our son.

When (or if) I lay out a fleece before the Lord, do I ask for ALL that I need or do I fleece the Lord for just one thing that I need above all others?

I pray and I am not getting any answers. I have people tell me to just "wait on the Lord"...but when I am struggling to make ends meet and need God to supply NOW, how can I not be anxious?

Something that's difficult for me to understand as well is God's timing. It's so hard to wait. In my experience, I usually don't see or understand the "why" until afterward and when I look back, I see he had his hand on everything the entire time. In every instance he handled the situations much better than I would have thought of. (His ways truly are far above our ways). Every experience he's brought me through has been a learning experience for me.

Whatever you do, don't quit trusting God. Man disappoints...God doesn't. Look to God, not man, and put your complete trust in him.

I truly believe that God will not put more on you than you can bear. He will test you but he won't break you.

May God's peace and blessings be with you!