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09-19-2011, 11:43 AM
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Re: Racists
I love Black preachers! Lambert Gates is my favorite, although I like Noel Jones, T.D. Jakes and the late Norman Wagner and G.E. Patterson. I love their spirit when they preach!!!!
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09-19-2011, 12:00 PM
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Re: Racists
I know "hispanics" who act "white" who will not sit under a black pastor because of culture shock, or that is their excuse.
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09-19-2011, 12:08 PM
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Re: Racists
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Originally Posted by houston
I know "hispanics" who act "white" who will not sit under a black pastor because of culture shock, or that is their excuse.
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Yeah the "racism" (that's not really what it is), is in every "race" and in different kinds of churches.
I've mentioned tis before but I know of a Spanish Apostolic church that sees it as their "mission" to take hispanic members from other Apostolic churches based on the idea that the belong with their own kind. No joke.
On the other hand I know of a PAW that thinks my pastor has a problem with them because they are black. Never mind the fact that one of my Pastors good friends is a black baptist pastor of one of the largest churchs in this city.
There was a situation where we shared services with the PAW and each time, afterwards, we would find holes in the drum heads. There were other issues too. My pastor tried to reason with the PAW pastor over this stuff but he just got offended and assumed it was racism...never mind we shared several services with them. Why do that to begin with if my pastor is racist?
That's just stupid stuff. It needs to go out the window when we claim Jesus as Lord
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09-19-2011, 12:09 PM
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Re: Racists
A very prominent white UPCI pastor in Mississippi once told his church that if they did not like black people coming to church, "The back of your head looks as good as the front. Just leave!" He never was able to turn that church around (he'd taken an established church from another), so he left it and started another from the ground up. He began it by busing in black folks so they would be in the foundation of the church. Anyone who did not approve would never stay long enough to spread their racism around.
He has a powerful, thriving, multicultural church in the heart of the south.
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09-19-2011, 12:16 PM
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Re: Racists
At the church I went to east of Dallas up until a few years ago, we bused in more of the black community than the rest of the town, which was very much a segregated town -- 1/3 was whites, another 1/3 was hispanics, and the other 1/3 was black. The remaining was a mix of all three.
Unfortunately, most (not all) of the black kids we bused in were very disrespectful and abusive to property to the point we could not longer afford to pick them up. As for the rest, very much full of respect.
For those that know Terrell, TX, you'd know what I'm talking about...
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09-19-2011, 12:23 PM
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Re: Racists
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Originally Posted by soldoutochrist
This has been my experience and cannot be generalized. But the only time that I've found "white" churches particularly unwelcome or seemingly uncomfortable is when I was in an area with very little diversity.
When churches are surrounded by diversity and people of all different colors, it's a lot harder to be ignorant about race. Just my two cents.
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I agree, and there are areas of the country that are practically still segregated. Even in our little town, there is a distinct lack of minorities. Our kids go to a private school now, and it's mostly white with a handful of Hispanics or Native American Indians thrown in. People tend to be more ignorant in those areas and their actions and conversations match their lack of sophistication. Exposure to other cultures is the best remedy, but some people will always live in their own little pod. And some will only notice the negative aspects of other cultures and use it to support their ignorant notions.
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09-19-2011, 01:30 PM
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Re: Racists
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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
. Exposure to other cultures is the best remedy, but some people will always live in their own little pod. And some will only notice the negative aspects of other cultures and use it to support their ignorant notions.
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Bingo! My wife was raised in the racial box, but going to military being exposed to all races helped her greatly. Just like some white families instill junk in their kids, minorities do as well.
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09-19-2011, 04:14 PM
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Re: Racists
I am also curious to know how she knows the people in her current church are racist?
I have been in several different churches in my lifetime, due to relocating with my job.
Three of these churches have been in the South and none of them were any way racist.
They were all great revival and evangelistic churches who had a passion for the lost, no matter the color of their skin.
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09-19-2011, 04:38 PM
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Re: Racists
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Originally Posted by houston
I know "hispanics" who act "white" who will not sit under a black pastor because of culture shock, or that is their excuse.
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I think hispanics are taught that by their enviroment.
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09-19-2011, 06:27 PM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Re: Racists
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Originally Posted by aegsm76
I am also curious to know how she knows the people in her current church are racist?
I have been in several different churches in my lifetime, due to relocating with my job.
Three of these churches have been in the South and none of them were any way racist.
They were all great revival and evangelistic churches who had a passion for the lost, no matter the color of their skin.
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Yep... I posed the same question.
I also find what appears to be a prejudiced statement toward southerners interesting.
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