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Old 01-08-2012, 10:22 PM
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The UPCI does or used to require a letter of transfer from one pastor to the next. Today, most probably just exchange a telehone call, if that. Something about ministerial ethics. I think it is a good idea.
Don't have a problem with that as long as the new pastor can have a talk with the saint leaving the old church to hear their side of the story. But to tell board members, then they tell their family and friends...not good. The saint is trying to make a new start to live for God and is cut down before they get the chance.


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Oh please!!
Oh please what?!?
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:25 PM
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I know I've had a upc pastor tell me that if we were going to go to or visit his church and were members of the other upc church he would have to let the pastor of our other upc church know... I've heard it was a rule they had to do this but maybe the reason was just heresay.
That is true. It's happened around here.

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Old 01-08-2012, 10:30 PM
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Oh please what?!?
I think it was the part where you said people might not answer... I get the feeling that there is not much you wouldn't get an opinion on at AFF, LOL!
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Old 01-08-2012, 10:52 PM
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....oh well...there's nothing new under the sun....is there? LOL
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Old 01-09-2012, 03:44 AM
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I think part of what you said happens.

In fact, I think it is a good thing for Pastors to communicate in situations like this.

Unity is protected when Pastors communicate.

The Flock is protected when Pastors communicate, when the church member in question is someone that is disruptive.

Accountability is maintained when Pastors communicate.


It is up to the individual Pastors to keep such communications confidential, as the souls of more than one person is USUALLY at stake when stuff like this happens.


I don't think that Pastor's are purposely publishing the personal business of the souls of the people they are given charge over-- in board meetings or any where else. Neither do I believe that most of them handle situations like this in a way where someone can get hurt.


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Most Pastors love the souls of the people that God allows them to serve.

Amen! Glad to see someone say SOMETHING positive about men of God!
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:28 AM
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I will grant you that in old time Pentecost there are instances of preachers unfairly painting incorrect pictures of saints that have left their church out of anger and spite but they will have to answer to God for that.
So that has ceased now?

I wonder when that happened?
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:49 AM
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Re: Do Ministers Really Do This?

The pastor that would tell his board about the family transferring probably has a church where everbody is already talking about each other anyway. A lot of different scenarios going on with this thread. We've seen them all. Either men or honorable or they aren't. My experience is that most are.
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Old 01-09-2012, 06:54 AM
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The pastor that would tell his board about the family transferring probably has a church where everbody is already talking about each other anyway. A lot of different scenarios going on with this thread. We've seen them all. Either men or honorable or they aren't. My experience is that most are.
And my experience is that most are when it suits them.
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So that has ceased now?

I wonder when that happened?
I used the present tense "are" so why do you think I think it has ceased?
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Re: Do Ministers Really Do This?

It seems there is alot of distrust among ministers.
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