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04-26-2012, 07:22 PM
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Re: Riots???
I hope that my predictions do not come to pass either.
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04-26-2012, 07:33 PM
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Re: Riots???
The end of the world scenario as presented above suggests the common one that
a Christian is to avoid, and not participate in. It happens tomorrow, and thus never happens. It is a satanically inspired preoccupation. It is a lie. It removes one from now.
The end of the world as you know it has already happened,
to you, several times. In a sense, it just happened again; at sunset.
Contrast one "preparing" for an imagined tomorrow v
one working to bring that tomorrow about.
If you are preparing for...tomorrow, "Armageddon,"
in this manner, you are useless to God.
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04-26-2012, 07:45 PM
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Re: Riots???
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If you are preparing for...tomorrow, "Armageddon,"
in this manner, you are useless to God.
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I am??
I always thought Jesus said to "Watch for the Signs and Prepare for His Return"
"Take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." - Mark 13:23
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." - Luke 21:36
I guess scripture must be wrong again...
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04-26-2012, 08:04 PM
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Re: Riots???
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I am??
I always thought Jesus said to "Watch for the Signs and Prepare for His Return"
"Take ye heed: behold, I have foretold you all things." - Mark 13:23
"Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." - Luke 21:36
I guess scripture must be wrong again...
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Not at all, it merely describes the premises from which you read those verses.
"Watch ye, therefore" is not suggesting that you attempt to divine tomorrow, and a look at the object there, what ye are to in fact Watch (which ends up being "ye"), firmly puts one in now, not tomorrow. "Watch for signs" means have the knowledge to know when a sign has come to pass, not forecast for its possible passing any second now.
This is (apparently) a subtle, but huge diff in
"how you run your life," "your outlook," whatever. Huge.
Everything.
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04-26-2012, 08:09 PM
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"Watch for signs" means have the knowledge to know when a sign has come to pass, not forecast for its possible passing any second now.
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What about the birth pains? Isn't that a forecast??
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04-26-2012, 08:19 PM
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What about the birth pains? Isn't that a forecast??
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To that I'd say Christ is allowed to forecast, "I have told you all things,"
and so now we have a concept of "birth pangs," yes. We know that something will happen "in a twinkle of an eye" at some point, too--but see what anticipating it leads to. "I don't have to act today because I'm getting Raptured tomorrow." Same mentality, the diff being "I have to act today, for _____ is going to happen tomorrow."
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04-26-2012, 08:28 PM
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Whatever gets one out of now ends up being the point.
This is what God means at
"Understand I AM"
and why it's written that way.
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04-26-2012, 08:51 PM
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"I don't have to act today because I'm getting Raptured tomorrow."
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I have never met anybody who said that.
Have you?
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04-26-2012, 08:58 PM
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Re: Riots???
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I have never met anybody who said that.
Have you?
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It is not exhibited in what a person says, of course.
It's demonstrated. What are you preparing for?
Nevermind what you say.
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04-26-2012, 08:59 PM
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Re: Riots???
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It is not exhibited in what a person says, of course.
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You mean they think it?
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