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06-05-2012, 09:19 PM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
Hoooo Yaaa!
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06-05-2012, 09:37 PM
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of 10!! :)
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
So very wonderful and makes me feel
like we WILL get a new President this
November! 
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06-05-2012, 10:00 PM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
The race will tighten up as more results get in but it looks like Walker will win with considerably more of a margin than thought possible. The polling showed the race as a tossup.
One interesting thing CNN shared from their exit polling was that of the voters polled who had union members in their family over one third of them voted for Walker!
Another interesting note is that since Walker passed the legislation making it where you could be a public employee without being forced to join the union and pay dues it has been reported that over 50% of union members have dropped their union membership.
On CNN saw an interview with a college aged lib union guy who was literally crying and kept declaring that tonight was the "end of democracy!" LOL!!!
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Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-05-2012, 11:08 PM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
There will be rioting and looting tonight in Madison, WI.
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06-05-2012, 11:09 PM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
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Originally Posted by RandyWayne
There will be rioting and looting tonight in Madison, WI.
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You are probably right. Those peace loving, tolerant liberal union folks will not accept defeat gracefully is my bet.
You can take the union thug out of the ....... 
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-06-2012, 07:00 AM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
My dad is a huge Democrat and a CWA union man. Yet he doesn't support the public unions because hen sees how they aren't like private sector unions. He sees how they get unreasonable levels of benefits and pensions and how they are contributing to the corruption and fecklessness of government bureaucracy.
Union folks voted for Walker because they get it about public worker unions.
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06-06-2012, 07:07 AM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
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Originally Posted by deacon blues
My dad is a huge Democrat and a CWA union man. Yet he doesn't support the public unions because hen sees how they aren't like private sector unions. He sees how they get unreasonable levels of benefits and pensions and how they are contributing to the corruption and fecklessness of government bureaucracy.
Union folks voted for Walker because they get it about public worker unions.
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same here !
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06-06-2012, 07:32 AM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
I think any rational person would have to agree that it is wrong to force someone to be a member of a union to hold a government job. It is funny because none of the major media outlets have framed the debate this way. They just say that Governor Walker "stripped the unions of collective bargaining rights".
I am so glad that both states I have lived in the past 29 years are right to work states so no one is forced to join a union to take a job.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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06-06-2012, 07:59 AM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
we have to have unions to keep a balence of power. also if wages are taken away how can the economy grow????
why do some people have to go after anothers wages to make cuts.
cut abortion funding.
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06-06-2012, 09:53 AM
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Re: Scott Walker Recall Election
I work for Hostess, and am not in the union. The #1 reason Hostess is on the verge of liquidation is ONE Multi-Employer Pension Plan with ONE group (Teamsters). They've been paying retirement for ALL those in that MEPP, most of whom NEVER worked for Hostess. I can do without the unions. Reason #1 - as an industrial mechanic I make the same as everyone else in the plant. Janitors, shipping (who push carts into trucks and count out the order - that's it). I make 75% of the state average for my position because other workers deemed it 'only fair'. Nevermind I have to weld, know some computer programming, fix and adjust complex machinery. I agreed to accept the position for that amount of money, and I am grateful for the job, but the 'equity' is really inequitable.
#2 It scares away businesses and the Teamsters are about to cost my family its sole source of income besides God providence.
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