My Politics

[canam]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Hmm, and here I thought I was going right to the heart of it, re, "the title of this thread..."
I'm sorry, but just exactly like promoting wholesome behavior
becomes "promoting unwholesome behavior" when some
cow farmer takes exception to the truth, I find my post here
more to the point, if antagonistic. These are "My politics,"
how do you like them?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Specifically the arms to Mexico deal, and the President using executive privilege to keep the AG from appearing before Congress.

I love you as well.

"Mr. Issa said his investigation had uncovered no evidence and now had no strong suspicion that Mr. Holder had known about or authorized a tactic used in Fast and Furious called gunwalking. Under the practice, investigators do not swiftly interdict weapons and arrest low-level suspects in an effort to build a larger case."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us...pagewanted=all






I have stated my opinion on this before, but I wanted to make sure that there wasn't something else I was missing.

There is nothing in this case that smacks of obstruction of democracy, but there is a lot in this "scandal" that smacks of a political witch hunt. Remember, during the last Adminstration, Rumsfield was forced to step down and Gonzalez was forced to step down.


This "scandal" had nothing to do with the death of BP Agent Terry or with the 2nd Amendment. The politcal powers that be tried to incorporate both of these concepts into this mess, but when you get to the bottom of all of this, it is easy to see the politics behind this.

President Obama's assertion of Executive Privilege was an attempt to end the politcal charade.

The "Fast and Furious" scandal is not much more than an attempt to embarass the President and his Adminstration during this election season.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

"Mr. Issa said his investigation had uncovered no evidence and now had no strong suspicion that Mr. Holder had known about or authorized a tactic used in Fast and Furious called gunwalking. Under the practice, investigators do not swiftly interdict weapons and arrest low-level suspects in an effort to build a larger case."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/29/us...pagewanted=all






I have stated my opinion on this before, but I wanted to make sure that there wasn't something else I was missing.

There is nothing in this case that smacks of obstruction of democracy, but there is a lot in this "scandal" that smacks of a political witch hunt. Remember, during the last Adminstration, Rumsfield was forced to step down and Gonzalez was forced to step down.


This "scandal" had nothing to do with the death of BP Agent Terry or with the 2nd Amendment. The politcal powers that be tried to incorporate both of these concepts into this mess, but when you get to the bottom of all of this, it is easy to see the politics behind this.

President Obama's assertion of Executive Privilege was an attempt to end the politcal charade.

The "Fast and Furious" scandal is not much more than an attempt to embarass the President and his Adminstration during this election season.

Yeeesssa ! Those 175 mexicans that have been killed as result of these illegal weapons( that were let into mexico to prove we need gun control in this country) should be ashamed, and would like to be im sure, of themselves for embarrassing our socialist leader,unfortuanately they aint available for comment.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

Now i do want to keep this seperate from the zimmerman case (even tho its related) i am concerned about the act itself expecially in the view of the public Eye.

There is what is called the dominio effect, if one is allowed to do something then others will follow in the same way.

for instance, 2 men at work get into a fight. one hits the other. The man who hit the other man is suspended for 2 days, doesnt lose his Job.

Now 1 week later the owner of the company walks through. One man who is angry over his pay he now understands sees that hitting some one is only a 2 day suspension. In his eyes its worth hitting the owner over his pay. He hits the owner and he is fired.

The man turns around and uses the legal system to sue the company for unfair practices.

so what i am concerned about is the act, which it could have been done by the kKk or any other group. so i dont want to sound like its a racist thing I want to focus on the act and why this current administration allowed it to go on, even with so much media coverage on it.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/repo...rge-zimmerman/

I understand the emotions behind what happened, and of course the black panther party's response is the wrong response.

The black panther party is no where nearly as funded, organized, and popular as the Klan or other similar organizations and I don't think that this Adminstration (or any other Adminstration in recent history) has taken the black panther party serious. I didn't notice much coverage at all from the mainstream news outlets concerning the black panther party before or after making their "offer."


If there had been widespread and continued violence and rioting in response to the murder, then I am sure the Adminstration would have said more to discourage that.

Still this Adminstration has been criticized for speaking on "state" issues in the past and President Obama was criticized for stating what he said in response to the murder-- for allegedly bringing race into the tragedy and for speaking (again) on a "state" issue.


So what would you have wanted AG Holder or the President to do or say in response to the nearly nation-wide initial disgust at the Martin murder? Remember my disgust, anger, and rage at the initial reports?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by aegsm76

JD - how do you feel about the AME church support of the AG?
I kept waiting for someone to post it.

“Those who have held Attorney General Holder, America’s first African-American attorney general, in contempt have been (1) consistently and systematically disrespectful of the attorney general and of President Barack Obama,” the resolution read. “ (2) The attack against Attorney General Holder comes after his stated intent to determine whether recent laws passed to combat non-existent voter fraud are actually efforts at voter suppression that violate the Voting Rights Act.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories...#ixzz20AHfRBsV

(1) I and many others, many of other countries that I have spoken with have commented on this long before the contempt vote.

(2) I don't agree with the connection the AME church is making. Again, it is my opinion that AG Holder was going to be attacked just by being President Obama's AG.

The AME's church reference to "Reconstruction" was over the top, not warranted.

[StillStanding]

Would we be a better nation if every congressman and senator were baptized in Jesus name, believed the Oneness doctrine and followed strict holiness standards?

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by canam

Yeeesssa ! Those 175 mexicans that have been killed as result of these illegal weapons( that were let into mexico to prove we need gun control in this country) should be ashamed, and would like to be im sure, of themselves for embarrassing our socialist leader,unfortuanately they aint available for comment.

The people from our party that have been pressing Holder throughout this political debacle do not care about the 175 dead Mexicans. They only want to embarass Holder and the President and in doing so, score political points.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway

Would we be a better nation if every congressman and senator were baptized in Jesus name, believed the Oneness doctrine and followed strict holiness standards?

It depends on if your guidelines could have been met by every congressman and senator that has ever served.

A soul-saving revival that started tomorrow at the Capitol would be an AMAZING act of God's Grace!

However, those people would still have a nation of heathens to represent.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by acerrak

how do you feel about eric holder, who stood by and did not arrest the new black panthers who openly, publically and telivized "solisitation of murder" and no one in the government acted on it.

Knowing this is clearly a violation of the law,and nothing was clearly done or said about it. what is your political opinion dealing with this situation. (1) How should have it been handled and how would you have delt with it personally. Thanks

If I was the U.S. Attorney General when all of this hit the fans, I'd acknowledge and empathize with the anger, but I would clearly steer everyone away from violence and re-assure the listeners of my office's commitment to justice, for all involved. My comments would be tilted in the direction of ensuring justice for the Martin family, but it wouldn't be at the exclusion of zim.

Wisdom would require that no one make "political martyrs" out of the black panther idiots while all of this was initially breaking. By not publicly acknowledging the idiots (whatever their race or cause), you take the steam out of their engine.

By keeping tabs on them and other hate groups, we ensure that they don't carry out their deeds. It's easier to keep tabs on them when they're not in the mindset of immediate conflict.

[canam]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

The people from our party that have been pressing Holder throughout this political debacle do not care about the 175 dead Mexicans. They only want to embarass Holder and the President and in doing so, score political points.

they dont need any help they have already embarrassed them selves