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10-23-2012, 07:25 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
If y'all aren't screaming hellfire in the microphone I don't want to hear about it...
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10-23-2012, 08:46 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
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If y'all aren't screaming hellfire in the microphone I don't want to hear about it...
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LOL!! No "holy breath" from this preacher. Also no red face, veins popping, and looking and sounding insane. Thank the Lord!
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-23-2012, 08:48 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
Don't forget the holy wheeze!
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10-23-2012, 09:20 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
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Don't forget the holy wheeze!
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Hmmmm.......I have been deprived as I don't think I know that. I have experienced plenty of "holy breath" and microphone "popping" that is obviously annointing but no holy wheeze.
I am trying to imagine what it is like. Please describe.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-23-2012, 09:07 AM
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Don't forget the holy wheeze!
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Ha. As I recall, you don't have the holy breath or wheeze, just a bit of cadence, but not too much.
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10-23-2012, 11:24 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
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Ha. As I recall, you don't have the holy breath or wheeze, just a bit of cadence, but not too much.
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Would it have helped you more if I would have screamed at you?
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10-23-2012, 09:24 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
It's just the regular run of the mill wheeze with a tad of holy breath mixed in it.
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10-23-2012, 10:43 AM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
I am a "3 stepper" who believes strongly in standards of Holiness...however I do feel that we can change up our way of doing things without compromising our principles. I actually feel that especially in urban settings that there needs to be an openness to change and relevancy....again as long as core principles are not abandoned in doing so.
....but tattoos???? seriously???
(I sorta figure he got them before he came to the Lord....seeing his background was that of a cocaine addict)
I would have recommended he cover them up for the interview....because now he is probably going to be associated with kooks like Todd Bentley.
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10-23-2012, 12:06 PM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
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Originally Posted by strait shooter
I am a "3 stepper" who believes strongly in standards of Holiness...however I do feel that we can change up our way of doing things without compromising our principles. I actually feel that especially in urban settings that there needs to be an openness to change and relevancy....again as long as core principles are not abandoned in doing so.
....but tattoos???? seriously???
(I sorta figure he got them before he came to the Lord....seeing his background was that of a cocaine addict)
I would have recommended he cover them up for the interview....because now he is probably going to be associated with kooks like Todd Bentley.
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Why would he cover them up? While I don't like tattoos I don't know why someone would hide them if they have them unless they are profane. If you are around him you would never confuse him with any charismatic nut. He is not like that at all.
If the tattoo bothers you I might as well go ahead and tell you that our female praise and worship singers wear pants / jeans, and virtually nobody dresses up for church. In the winter I sometimes wear a sports jacket and I saw one guy Sunday with one on.
As far as the pastor's background goes he was raised in church until he was 11 years old then his family did not attend church. When he came to the Lord he was in his 20's and as you stated had been a cocaine addict, etc and was really in bad shape health wise.
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"I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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10-23-2012, 12:12 PM
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Re: Non Traditional Church Pastord By Ex UPCer
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Originally Posted by CC1
Why would he cover them up? While I don't like tattoos I don't know why someone would hide them if they have them unless they are profane. If you are around him you would never confuse him with any charismatic nut. He is not like that at all.
If the tattoo bothers you I might as well go ahead and tell you that our female praise and worship singers wear pants / jeans, and virtually nobody dresses up for church. In the winter I sometimes wear a sports jacket and I saw one guy Sunday with one on.
As far as the pastor's background goes he was raised in church until he was 11 years old then his family did not attend church. When he came to the Lord he was in his 20's and as you stated had been a cocaine addict, etc and was really in bad shape health wise.
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I love Pastors with a story! Not just someone raised in the Church. I have a stinky background before Christ and it was too many time I heard I would not know anything about that Bruther Mike I was rasied in the church. 
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