Gun Control Failed Newtown

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Aquila

I think there are enough of us who favor responsible gun ownership to prevent them from taking all guns.

I heard David Brooks saying that we won't be able to take all guns away, but we could regulate the bullet industry. They will try to find a way.

[Cindy]

And Biden will be in charge? OMW

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Aquila

LOL

I think we could grandfather you in... or at least seriously consider your case for needing one. I'd approve it.

AWESOME!!!!! LOL!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I heard David Brooks saying that we won't be able to take all guns away, but we could regulate the bullet industry. They will try to find a way.

And... that's their opinion. They have a right to it. I doubt it would fly.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Cindy

And Biden will be in charge? OMW

I believe they will use the UN to get gun control started here. That's already something in the works.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I believe they will use the UN to get gun control started here. That's already something in the works.

I thought Obama said that Biden will be in charge in his speech.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Aquila

And... that's their opinion. They have a right to it. I doubt it would fly.

They are still trying to get legislation passed for firearm microstamping. That, of course, increases manufacturing costs, so they want to hit the issue in that way.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Cindy

I thought Obama said that Biden will be in charge in his speech.

I was speaking of legislation that is on the table right now concerning gun control and the UN.

Didn't Obama speak today on the gun control issue? Someone sent me the C-Span link, but I didn't tune in.

12-19-12 LIVE!!!!!!!! PRESIDENT OBAMA’S STATEMENT ON GUN CONTROL!!!!
11:45am (ET) / 10:45am (CST) / 9:45 MST/ 8:45am (PST)

[Pressing-On]

I am also understanding that Lanza was on a violence-linked anti-psychotic drug known as Fanapt.

So, my further opinion on this subject is that the medical and drug industry need to be on trial, not gun control.

Too many people are having a myriad of problems and further depression, etc., etc. from mind altering drugs administered so freely by the medical industry.

[Walks_in_islam]

Private owners/sellers would LOVE to have access to the FBI background check files and be able to call in purchasers to be screened. Right now my understanding is that the system is limited to FFL (firearms licensees)

Average citizens therefore cannot do background checks because the FBI is prohibited from giving them the information. This is to protect the privacy of criminals <shakes head>

In addition to local, state, tribal, and federal agencies voluntarily contributing information to the NICS Index, the NICS Section receives telephone calls from mental health institutions, psychiatrists, police departments, and family members requesting placement of individuals into the NICS Index. Frequently, these are emergency situations and require immediate attention. Any documentation justifying a valid entry into the NICS Index must be available to the originating agencies

Few to no calls are made however. This is to protect the privacy of the mentally ill <shakes head>

Without a database the background check system is no good. The list of certified nutcases is shorter than the list of 40.5 million gun owners. Mental health / medical professionals and/or family members should be compelled to call the mentally ill in or take responsibility for what they do.

The bottom line on the shooting in Ct is that those people in that community knew that this kid had problems and they did nothing. Not his family, not the school he finally had to drop out of, not the community. They are striking out against uninvolved strangers (example the NRA) to cover their inaction - for which - sadly - the community paid a heavy and dear price.

Originally Posted by Aquila

I'm entertaining the following ideas... I think I could support:

- Reinstating the assult weapons ban. However, I'd allow a permit for those who can justify owning such a weapon.
- Closing gun show loopholes.
- Setting a higher standard for security (including armed private security guards) and screening in schools.
- Allowing designated "staff" to carry concealed weapons in schools, libraries, churches, and various businesses as long as they had a concealed weapons permit and proper training. On this point I'd allow schools, libraries, churches, and other entities to "opt into" the concealed carry program for staff.

The way I see it... we have some limitations on assult weapons. However, we also expand gun rights for personal protection in various venues. This, in my opinion, would be a decent compromise betwen the gun lobby and gun control advocates. A little give and take from both sides. It's worth doing this in efforts to make our children safer.