Do you believe the fact that he had a beer meant he was "a drunk"? If so then your response along with a couple of others on this threads makes me think old time Pentecost is even worse off than I previously thought.
A person can drink alcohol and not be a "drunk". It was not this "christian's" place to make that judgement. I can tell you that the man was clearly not inebriated. he was a 60ish man who was not loud, obnoxious, or anything else. He was just walking and talking quietly with two friends (he was directly ahead of us) when this so called chrisitian started his schtick.
You guys act like this "christian" encountered an obviously drunk man and I am upset at that. That is not the case at all.
If you agree with this method of witnessing your kind are doomed to remain a relatively tiny religious sect who does as much harm to the gospel message as satan does.
A couple of Fred Phelps can do as much damage as a ten thousand ACLU lawyers.
You have that right but I seriously doubt that would have been the case. I believe you are just being adversarial and that is also your right.
Yes I would have been just as upset if he had pointed at a couple and accused them of fornication because they were at a seedy hotel. He would have no actual knowledge of their situation. They could be married low lifes who were in sin in some way but not fornication. You are being absurd in your defense of the indefensible.
You honestly propose the notion that it is a good witnessing technique to accuse people of various sins and assume you are right unless they take the time to correct you?
Most people I know would do what I did and ignore this moron. He did not deserve any response from people. Amazing how you put the onus on people denying his accusations. I sincerely hope you are not serious.
Adversarial probably would not be the most accurate word to describe my intents.
While I am all for bullhorn witnessing, it does not do the Gospel any good for people to "prophesy" about or "read" people and be wrong. That would irk me too, brother.
Thanks for helping me to better understand you.
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The man had a single beer so that equates to full blown alcoholic, low life, probably wife beating, child abusing, porn addicted sinner to many "Christians" today. After all, only outright and complete prohibition of any and all alcohol (except in Nyquil) would be acceptable to Jesus (who provided fresh booze for a wedding party) according to modern American Christians, especially OPs.
Let me put it a different way. I do not condone foolishness in street witnessing or any other kind. Having said that I know how hard it is to witness for Christ. I have been on the streets about 35 years talking to and preaching to the lost about Christ.
My reaction is to the idea that the guy witnessing was a "jerk" and doing a lot of work for the devil. My experience in general is that unless one loves the Lord he probably is not going to risk his life out on the streets calling sinners to repentance.
You sure wont find many of todays modern Christians out there talking to sinners.
Thanks, CC1 for starting this thread! BTW, I'm now StillStanding, not Pianoman anymore! Ha!
First off, the guy had a bullhorn blasting five feet from us. We were walking up to the stadium in a group that was in a good mood anticipating the Titans game. He addressed the entire group as "sinners" and then keyed in on the guy with the beer. When we FINALLY were able to cross the street, he blared thru his bullhorn, " God bless you, sinner!" There was an unanimous rolling of the eyes. The guy with the beer told his buddies, "Can you believe that?"
I'm all for witnessing, but I can assured you that this type of "soul winning" did more damage than it helped. We saw three or four other people with bullhorns and signs with derogatory messages about "sinners". I'm sure that they all felt justified that they were doing the work of The Lord, but as CC1 mentioned, they were helping the devil out by making Christianity look so crass and judgmental.
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CC1, Pastor Phil Goldsboerry said yesterday at church that basically, 'Church, or a church service, isn't bad or harmful, but people can sometimes make it offensive.' That statement is so true. Church, the service, on Sunday's may not be an offensive matter on the surface, but the church, us, can make church, the service, very offensive to people, even offensive to believers.
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Thanks, CC1 for starting this thread! BTW, I'm now StillStanding, not Pianoman anymore! Ha!
First off, the guy had a bullhorn blasting five feet from us. We were walking up to the stadium in a group that was in a good mood anticipating the Titans game. He addressed the entire group as "sinners" and then keyed in on the guy with the beer. When we FINALLY were able to cross the street, he blared thru his bullhorn, " God bless you, sinner!" There was an unanimous rolling of the eyes. The guy with the beer told his buddies, "Can you believe that?"
I'm all for witnessing, but I can assured you that this type of "soul winning" did more damage than it helped. We saw three or four other people with bullhorns and signs with derogatory messages about "sinners". I'm sure that they all felt justified that they were doing the work of The Lord, but as CC1 mentioned, they were helping the devil out by making Christianity look so crass and judgmental.
PM or SS, I think it is a laughable thing that these type of people think this is a "soul-winning" method. It's not though. It's a "soul-soothing" method for them only. It make them feel good about themselves by feeling bad for others. I don't get how that mindset can possibly be a valid one, but somehow to some people it is.
If I were you or CC1 I'd have responded with, "Jesus loves you too even though you're a jerk, a judge and just plain rude." If it were me I'd have said something far worse than that.
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seriously if I had been part of that crowd and heard that, I just might have walked up to the guy and asked if he had recived the HG since he believed. then when he said waaaachuuuutalkingbout? I just might have launched into You are being disobedient. You need to get baptized right, talk in tongues!
get'em all worked up!
LOLOLOL!
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