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Old 10-17-2013, 02:19 PM
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Everything?
As far as I understand the New Testament Faith he teaches everything that I consider foundational falsely. Im convinced that even a well trained believer in the Oneness faith has more accurate knowledge of the truth than he does.
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Old 10-17-2013, 03:16 PM
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I'm listening now to the live stream of John Macarthur's "Strange Fire" conference. Michael Brown has been talking about this conference and the rediculous ideas being pushed for some time now.
John Macarthur is clearly a cesassionist. It seems he is taking the radical and bizarre behaviors of the most far fetched charismatic movements and pushing them onto the entire charismatic/Pentecostal movement.

http://www.tmstrangefire.org
Now from what I have hears Michael Brown is a good holiness preacher.
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Is this the same guy that taught at Because of the Times?
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no
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i think that was John Maxwell?

he doesnt major on doctrine so much...more leadership

I'm not defending his presence on the platform of an Apostolic Church...just statin the facts.

MacArthur is a dontrinal authority for calvinists and cesassionists and several other heretics :-)
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What is a "cesassionist"?
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What is a "cesassionist"?
Apparently something you don't want to be.
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Apparently something you don't want to be.
I was just wondering if it had anything to do with 1861, the Confederacy or the Honorable Robert E. Lee.
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What is a "cesassionist"?
Someone that believes the gifts all ceased when the Apostles all died out and the canon was completed
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Someone that believes the gifts all ceased when the Apostles all died out and the canon was completed
Oh WOW! Now that is a sad, doctrine. No real hope, No healing, No miracles, No answered prayers, No gifted men or ministries. Sad indeed.
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Oh WOW! Now that is a sad, doctrine. No real hope, No healing, No miracles, No answered prayers, No gifted men or ministries. Sad indeed.
Jesus is our hope. Why wouldn't their prayers be answered?
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I was just wondering if it had anything to do with 1861, the Confederacy or the Honorable Robert E. Lee.
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Jesus is our hope. Why wouldn't their prayers be answered?
"Jesus is our hope" is a very simplistic answer. Yes Jesus is our hope but he Entrusted delivery of that hope to men. He gave us gifts to edify one another
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