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#21 06-05-2007, 11:13 AM

Did not a angel stand between you and a man with a gun pointed at your stomach? Why would you need one?

SDG · #22 06-05-2007, 11:17 AM

Sister Alvear,

A good friend posted this in another forum some moons ago ... and it has always stayed in my mind... Please take it w/ a grain of salt:

One might like to consider the following in the discussion:

Lk 22: 35 And he [Jesus] said unto them [the disciples], When I sent you without purse, and scrip, and shoes, lacked ye any thing? And they said, Nothing.

36 Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one.

37 For I say unto you, that this that is written must yet be accomplished in me, And he was reckoned among the transgressors: for the things concerning me have an end.

38 And they said, Lord, behold, here are two swords. And he said unto them, It is enough.

From the context of this chapter, it would seems as thought Jesus is bringing to the attention of His disciples that while He was with them (on earth), He personally took care of everything they needed, even their protection, even when He was not physically in their company.

Now, Jesus is making it clear that His provision and protection shall continue with them, but that the physical circumstances will be different than it has been in the past.

Unlike in the boat during a storm, the disciples will have to exercise both physical and spiritual authority and power – more on their own. They will not have the luxury of going back and waking Jesus up, and pleading for Him to “do something”.

There are now the realities of the world to contend with, such has having to pay for things they need, changes of clothing to carry along. As it is also well known, there were road agents (robbers) that one would most likely encounter – guys that are willing to take your life for what ever you might have on your person. For this, one will need a means of self-protection: a sword, if you will. Today, a gun might serve you better.

Doctrine: You might be as gentle as a dove and keep peace with all men (where possible), if you are robbed of your coat, give the robber your cloak also. But, if the highwayman is bent on taking your life: Kill him!

ThePastorsCoach · #23 06-05-2007, 11:18 AM

Sister Alvear - My dear sweet wife said to tell you - she votes that you should have a gun. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe I should be sweeter here!!!!!!!!!!!

Sherri · #24 06-05-2007, 11:18 AM

We have a gun in the house, but I don't even know how to use it. I know Eddie would shoot someone (just to harm them, not to kill) if they were coming after his family. I don't think I would have the nerve even to shoot someone. But we've always had one ever since we've been married. Eddie used to work in his uncle's gun shop, so it's just in his blood I guess.

Digging4Truth · #25 06-05-2007, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Sister Alvear - My dear sweet wife said to tell you - she votes that you should have a gun. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM maybe I should be sweeter here!!!!!!!!!!!

We are coming your way in a few weeks.

Maybe... if you don't have your gun yet... we can yell howdy.

ThePastorsCoach · #26 06-05-2007, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

We are coming your way in a few weeks.

Maybe... if you don't have your gun yet... we can yell howdy.

Great - Do we know each other and when/where are you coming? Would love to have you here - let me know when! PM me for my personal number - I assure you - I will NOT have a gun! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bless you,
AB

Digging4Truth · #27 06-05-2007, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

Great - Do we know each other and when/where are you coming? Would love to have you here - let me know when! PM me for my personal number - I assure you - I will NOT have a gun! ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bless you,
AB

No sir... I only know of you guys from here (and I am assuming you are in or around Atlanta Ga)

We are trying to put together a trip to Conyers Ga on 6/22 to hear Israel Houghton.

Margies3 · #28 06-05-2007, 12:38 PM

Dear sweet Sister Alvea, I think the question you have to be asking yourself is: Just suppose that even tho you didn't aim to shoot at someone, suppose they or someone else got ahold of your arm while the gun was in your hand and then the gun went off and shot someone and killed them. Could you live with yourself after that?

I am not opposed to guns!! I grew up in a house full of hunters so we always had guns. But I just see you as such a sensitive person that I don't know how you could handle it if an accident of the worst kind happened.

What do you think?

The Mrs · #29 06-05-2007, 01:04 PM

Sis. Alvear, if you do decide to keep a gun, may I offer these considerations?

#1) What goes up, must come down. If you shoot a bullet in the air, it CAN come down and kill someone. (Thank you CSI for that valuable tidbit of information!)

#2) Buy blanks instead of bullets. It will insure that neither you, nor them, if they get a hold of your gun, will harm anyone. (Although if fired at point blank range, they can kill.)

#3) Learn as much about gun safety as possible.

Sister Alvear · #30 06-05-2007, 01:37 PM

Once a robber held a gun to my stomach and I did tell him he would have to shoot my angel first because the Lord sent me to that village. I knew the Lord sent me to do a work there and I would return...that is not my only experience with guns and robbers...however we have been thinking maybe we should have a gun more so to scare off would be robbers...no I would die before I would shoot someone.
Blanks may be a good idea. I would sure keep it in a safe place. I am not a fan of guns...