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Old 10-23-2013, 09:37 AM
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But if they are two separate commandments, what is the point? If you obey the "first one" then there's no need for the second one. It only makes sense as a cohesive thought. The second portion indicates the intent that is sinful and should be avoided.
Consider the fourth commandment. There is one element - remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Then there is the other element - do no servile work therein. One commandment, two parts or two aspects.

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Consider the fourth commandment. There is one element - remember the sabbath day to keep it holy. Then there is the other element - do no servile work therein. One commandment, two parts or two aspects.

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That actually proves the point further. The second part is clarification to tell you how to keep it holy - not a separate and distinct command. Therefore, if you do servile work, you are not obeying the command to keep the sabbath holy. It's one cohesive thought. The same as with the negative of "do not make any graven image"...for what purpose? To bow down and worship. The fourth is: "Keep the sabbath holy by not doing servile work."

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Old 10-23-2013, 09:38 AM
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BTW, I am not arguing FOR the position, I am just working through it, exhausting all the evidence, 'proving all things' etc etc. Thanks for those of you who are patient, I often take the 'devil's advocate' approach to things as I want to be thorough.
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BTW, I am not arguing FOR the position, I am just working through it, exhausting all the evidence, 'proving all things' etc etc. Thanks for those of you who are patient, I often take the 'devil's advocate' approach to things as I want to be thorough.
Esaias, just for the record, I respect your approach and even when we disagree, I respect you.

if my "idiot" comment here offended, I am sorry. It was certainly not directed at you.
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Esaias, just for the record, I respect your approach and even when we disagree, I respect you.

if my "idiot" comment here offended, I am sorry. It was certainly not directed at you.
No offense taken! (Usually because I am well skilled in the mysteries of idiocy!)

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No offense taken! (Usually because I am well skilled in the mysteries of idiocy!)

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Are toys graven images?

The only difference in men and boys is the price of their toys.


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Are toys graven images?

The only difference in men and boys is the price of their toys.


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