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Old 05-18-2014, 09:10 AM
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Re: Glory Clouds And Gold, or Fog and Glitter?

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I was always skeptical of the glitter stuff. And from what I've experienced it most certainly does not look like a smoke machine. It looks more like a cloud that just appears and hovers. Smoke machines "push" the "smoke" out with a fan.

What I saw doesn't move around like that
I was reading in Joel this morning, and read these verses:

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Joel 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit.

30 And I will shew wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke.

31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD come.
Prax, I don't doubt that you saw something supernatural when you saw the "glory cloud".

I do doubt the glitter, gold, and feathers though.
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Old 05-18-2014, 01:09 PM
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Re: Glory Clouds And Gold, or Fog and Glitter?

Kept, it would appear to me that verses 30 and 31 would be speaking of the end days. I don't believe one should isolate "pillars of smoke" from those two in an attempt to show people will see clouds in services.
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Old 05-18-2014, 05:38 PM
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I was reading in Joel this morning, and read these verses:



Prax, I don't doubt that you saw something supernatural when you saw the "glory cloud".

I do doubt the glitter, gold, and feathers though.
I have never ever believed in the glitter, feathers and other stuff.
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Kept, it would appear to me that verses 30 and 31 would be speaking of the end days. I don't believe one should isolate "pillars of smoke" from those two in an attempt to show people will see clouds in services.
Then the end days began with the outpouring on Pentecost

Act 2:16 But this is what was uttered through the prophet Joel:
Act 2:17 "'And in the last days it shall be, God declares, that I will pour out my Spirit on all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;
Act 2:18 even on my male servants and female servants in those days I will pour out my Spirit, and they shall prophesy.
Act 2:19 And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;
Act 2:20 the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.
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Act 2:19 And I will show wonders in the heavens above and signs on the earth below, blood, and fire, and vapor of smoke;
Act 2:20 the sun shall be turned to darkness and the moon to blood, before the day of the Lord comes, the great and magnificent day.
When one can say they have seen the other signs mentioned in Acts 2:19 & 20, then I will believe that the smoke mention could be used to show God promised to send clouds to us in services. These two are separate from what was seen on the day of Pentecost. I believe these two are in reference to things described in Revelations.
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Kept, it would appear to me that verses 30 and 31 would be speaking of the end days. I don't believe one should isolate "pillars of smoke" from those two in an attempt to show people will see clouds in services.
I believe those clouds of smoke speak of judgment and destruction from the Lord.
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Re: Glory Clouds And Gold, or Fog and Glitter?

Now folks... can you handle the WORD? Water out of a rock??? Birds flying so low by the thousands and ALL could reach out & grab a wonderful dinner? Water into wine? "Thy sins be forgiven you" Careful of trying to keep your Little and totally organized god in your box.. He'll break out!
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Now folks... can you handle the WORD? Water out of a rock??? Birds flying so low by the thousands and ALL could reach out & grab a wonderful dinner? Water into wine? "Thy sins be forgiven you" Careful of trying to keep your Little and totally organized god in your box.. He'll break out!
Bishop, that will preach right there!
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When one can say they have seen the other signs mentioned in Acts 2:19 & 20, then I will believe that the smoke mention could be used to show God promised to send clouds to us in services. These two are separate from what was seen on the day of Pentecost. I believe these two are in reference to things described in Revelations.
The Cloud...or the Glory, is already in our services. You don't usually see it
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The Cloud...or the Glory, is already in our services. You don't usually see it
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