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Old 08-24-2014, 01:21 AM
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Psa 90:10    The days of our years are threescore years and ten (70); and if by reason of strength they be fourscore (80) years , yet is their strength labour and sorrow; for it is soon cut off, and we fly away.
That does not say "A generation"
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Old 08-24-2014, 06:11 AM
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Really?

You still believe Elijah was caught up in a whirlwind and dropped off on a mountain top?

Mike come down to the eschatology section of the forum I have some questions for you since you are the one who has the truth on eschatology.

Please spoon feed with the hidden manna of your eschatological truths.
Dom,

I showed you the long version years ago. I will give you enough here to start your study. This time you are on your own.

Here is your starting place.

And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 2 Kings 2:11

At least eight years later.

2 Chronicles 21:8-15

8In his days the Edomites revolted from under the dominion of Judah, and made themselves a king. 9Then Jehoram went forth with his princes, and all his chariots with him: and he rose up by night, and smote the Edomites which compassed him in, and the captains of the chariots. 10So the Edomites revolted from under the hand of Judah unto this day. The same time also did Libnah revolt from under his hand; because he had forsaken the LORD God of his fathers. 11Moreover he made high places in the mountains of Judah, and caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication, and compelled Judah thereto.

Elijah's Letter to Jehoram

12And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, 13But hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father's house, which were better than thyself: 14Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods: 15And thou shalt have great sickness by disease of thy bowels, until thy bowels fall out by reason of the sickness day by day.

If Elijah was in Heaven whats he doing on Earth at least 8 years later still preaching judgment?
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Old 08-24-2014, 07:12 AM
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The world he spoke of ended with destruction of Jerusalem/Temple. Of you look up the word world in Matt 24 it means age not literal physical world. This why he told them "when you see these things"
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Was Jesus lying to them when he told them what they would see and experience in Matt 24?
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Dom,

I showed you the long version years ago. I will give you enough here to start your study. This time you are on your own.

Here is your starting place.

And it came to pass, as they still went on, and talked, that, behold, there appeared a chariot of fire, and horses of fire, and parted them both asunder; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. 2 Kings 2:11

At least eight years later.

2 Chronicles 21:8-15

8In his days the Edomites revolted from under the dominion of Judah, and made themselves a king. 9Then Jehoram went forth with his princes, and all his chariots with him: and he rose up by night, and smote the Edomites which compassed him in, and the captains of the chariots. 10So the Edomites revolted from under the hand of Judah unto this day. The same time also did Libnah revolt from under his hand; because he had forsaken the LORD God of his fathers. 11Moreover he made high places in the mountains of Judah, and caused the inhabitants of Jerusalem to commit fornication, and compelled Judah thereto.

Elijah's Letter to Jehoram


12And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet, saying, Thus saith the LORD God of David thy father, Because thou hast not walked in the ways of Jehoshaphat thy father, nor in the ways of Asa king of Judah, 13But hast walked in the way of the kings of Israel, and hast made Judah and the inhabitants of Jerusalem to go a whoring, like to the whoredoms of the house of Ahab, and also hast slain thy brethren of thy father's house, which were better than thyself: 14Behold, with a great plague will the LORD smite thy people, and thy children, and thy wives, and all thy goods: 15And thou shalt have great sickness by disease of thy bowels, until thy bowels fall out by reason of the sickness day by day.

If Elijah was in Heaven whats he doing on Earth at least 8 years later still preaching judgment?
And this is what I told you years ago.

It was a letter, nothing more, nothing less. A letter.

Elijah, a prophet, had the foresight from God to prepare the writing to send to Jehoram. Yet, you still cannot prove that Elijah was taken up in the whirlwind and dropped off on some mountain. No where in the text you offer does it say that Elijah was still living. So, come down to the thread in the eschatology section. I have some more questions for you.
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A word. A noun
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That does not say "A generation"
Didn't say it did.
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And this is what I told you years ago.

It was a letter, nothing more, nothing less. A letter.

Elijah, a prophet, had the foresight from God to prepare the writing to send to Jehoram. Yet, you still cannot prove that Elijah was taken up in the whirlwind and dropped off on some mountain. No where in the text you offer does it say that Elijah was still living. So, come down to the thread in the eschatology section. I have some more questions for you.
I have not said he was dropped off on some mountain. That was what the sons of the prophets speculated. I always say he was probably needed somewhere else.

Nonetheless we can be as certain as certain is that he did not ascend into Heaven. That is if one takes Christ as their final authority.

13And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven. John 3:13
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As to the topic at hand, Russians, Chinese, and Muslims certainly a bad sign for Americans and particularly Christians.

Between these three groups historically MILLIONS of Christians have been slaughtered.

Now I hope that the new Russia will never go back to the way of the Soviet Union concerning Christians. Personally I respect Vladimer Putin. I hope he will continue to think favorably toward Christians.

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