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02-23-2015, 11:50 AM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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That doesn't take away from the fact that the Congressional Black Caucus got the ball rolling on harsher penalties for drug use - including MJ. Jason Riley clearly puts out the fact that the drug laws were NOT white racism.
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02-23-2015, 01:49 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Kind of shocking to find out the truth of the matter, huh? So, shocking you have to say, "ok", because you don't want to believe it's true.
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02-23-2015, 01:56 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Kind of shocking to find out the truth of the matter, huh? So, shocking you have to say, "ok", because you don't want to believe it's true.
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Nope.
You're taking the conversation down a road that I don't want to go down in this thread. This thread is not about race. This thread is not about crack. While some people believe that all of the strict drug laws were born out of racism, I was never one of those people.
There was a time where I thought the crime of drug dealing deserved to be treated as harshly rape and murder.
However, now I think the law's blindness of the differences between crack, heroin, crystal meth, and marijuana does a disservice to the justice process.
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02-23-2015, 02:08 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Nope.
You're taking the conversation down a road that I don't want to go down in this thread. This thread is not about race. This thread is not about crack. While some people believe that all of the strict drug laws were born out of racism, I was never one of those people.
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There was a time where I thought the crime of drug dealing deserved to be treated as harshly rape and murder.
However, I think the law's blindness of the differences between crack, heroin, crystal meth, and marijuana does a disservice to the justice process.
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I don't agree.
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I think the judge felt like he had no choice because of the laws.
Reagan did have something to do with this, unfortunately.
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Anyway, here you are blaming Reagan, but is was actually the Congressional Black Caucus who saw the problem with drugs...perhaps Reagan working with them. Much like LBJ worked with MLK on civil rights.
Maybe Ava DuVernay and Oprah can make another historically inaccurate movie showing that Reagan didn't work with the black community being the culprit instead of it being Charlie Rangel.
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02-23-2015, 02:12 PM
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Anyway, here you are blaming Reagan, but is was actually the Congressional Black Caucus who saw the problem with drugs...perhaps Reagan working with them. Much like LBJ worked with MLK on civil rights.
Maybe Ava DuVernay and Oprah can make another historically inaccurate movie showing that Reagan didn't work with the black community being the culprit instead of it being Charlie Rangel.
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Ok.
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02-23-2015, 02:14 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
Drug law, most notable hemp laws, need to come into the 21st century. Do your research, and you will find hemp laws to be full of outdated racist dogma. I am a christian and a pot smoker for health reasons and am not ashamed to say it.
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02-23-2015, 02:23 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Drug law, most notable hemp laws, need to come into the 21st century. Do your research, and you will find hemp laws to be full of outdated racist dogma. I am a christian and a pot smoker for health reasons and am not ashamed to say it.
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Is it digging too much to ask for the specific health reason behind your decision to smoke pot?
Did it seem hypocritical to you, atleast in the begining, to resort to "drugs" for your treatment?
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02-23-2015, 02:32 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Anyway, here you are blaming Reagan, but is was actually the Congressional Black Caucus who saw the problem with drugs...perhaps Reagan working with them. Much like LBJ worked with MLK on civil rights.
Maybe Ava DuVernay and Oprah can make another historically inaccurate movie showing that Reagan didn't work with the black community being the culprit instead of it being Charlie Rangel.
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http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1010/43552.html
https://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt...yfp-t-339&fp=1
Don't try to re-write history-- and I'm done responding to your bait.
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02-23-2015, 02:48 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Fortunately, Rand Paul and Cory Booker are working on a sentencing reform bill. I know it's too late to correct time for some, but it could have an early release for many. It's called the Redeem Act.
"The REDEEM Act proposal would encourage states to raise the age of criminal responsibly to 18 years of age; expunge or seal the records of juveniles who commit non-violent crimes before they turn 15; place limits on the solitary confinement of most juveniles; and establish a system to allow eligible nonviolent criminals to petition a court to ask that their criminal records be sealed. Sealing the records would keep them out of FBI background checks requested by employers and likely make it easier for those former offenders to secure a job."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...ng-reform-bill
S.2567 - REDEEM Act113th Congress (2013-2014)
https://www.congress.gov/bill/113th-...nate-bill/2567
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This has probably already been mentioned, but our current drug laws disproportionately effect minorities. As JD pointed out, why does a committing a non-violent crime of selling pot get a harsher sentence than someone who did act in violence?
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02-23-2015, 02:50 PM
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Re: 55 years for selling mary jane!
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Is it digging too much to ask for the specific health reason behind your decision to smoke pot?
Did it seem hypocritical to you, atleast in the begining, to resort to "drugs" for your treatment?
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I am using it to help with Chemo related side effects. I am resorting to drugs when I take Chemo. Hemp is not a drug to me.
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