Is supprt for israel really required (V)

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by thephnxman

I guess the same can be said for those who follow a flag because it's red, white, and blue!

But of course, United States has no Biblical precedence, and we have no mandate to support her bad choices which may be outside of our control.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

What does "Support" mean?

I support Israel. I don't support everything Israel does

It means exactly what you posted above. Which makes it pretty plain and simple.

[Esaias]

1John ch 2:

[22] Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
[23] Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: (but) he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.

Why would anyone "support" antichrist?

[Esaias]

The modern state of Israel attacked a US naval vessel in 1967. http://www.usslibertyveterans.org

Israel has nuclear weapons and a proven track record of unilateral aggression against other countries.

Israel is no better than any of the other countries over there, and worse than some of them.

No need for us to fight their wars, or give them billions of dollars every year (just like we do the Palestinians, by the way).

Our foreign policy is so messed up it would take Divine Intervention to straighten it out (which it will, also by the way...)

[Scott Pitta]

Our family has supported Israel since it began. I have no idea how many trees we have had planted there.

Our support for Israel has nothing to do with theology. We have Jewish friends and I suppose our support is political or sociological.

No democracy is perfect. Every country has flaws. Such is the nature of humanity.

Israel does have the best human rights record in the middle east. An Arab can hold any political office in the Israeli government. Women's rights are as strong there as they are here.

I watched the last war as it unfolded. I don't think the military could have done anything more to prevent collateral human losses. They went out of there way to warn citizens of Gaza of where the next bomb would fall.

The wall is the only thing that stops terrorist from exploding bombs in Israel. Ever since the wall went up, those bomb attacks almost ceased entirely. Walls are unsocial, but effective for minimizing risk to citizen safety.

The human rights noise I hear on the political winds is nothing short of antisemitism. Syria uses chlorine gas as a weapon and everybody looks the other way.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The modern state of Israel attacked a US naval vessel in 1967. http://www.usslibertyveterans.org
Israel has nuclear weapons and a proven track record of unilateral aggression against other countries.
Israel is no better than any of the other countries over there, and worse than some of them.
No need for us to fight their wars, or give them billions of dollars every year (just like we do the Palestinians, by the way).
Our foreign policy is so messed up it would take Divine Intervention to straighten it out (which it will, also by the way...)

Didn't the U.S. receive the "Neutron Bomb" from Israel...hence the Millions of $$$$$?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Umm... what makes you think those people over there are Israelites?

Israelites are not a race, and anyone can become an American in the same manner.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

Israelites are not a race, and anyone can become an American in the same manner.

Israelites, strictly speaking, are the biological descendants of Jacob.

[thephnxman]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Israelites, strictly speaking, are the biological descendants of Jacob.

"And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast
thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed."

The descendants ONLY according to the flesh (natural realm) received the name change;

The descendants according to the promise (spiritual realm) are receiving the BLESSING!

"And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore
is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he BLESSED HIM THERE."

For those who have not yet understood, this correlates with the scripture found in Romans:
"For whosoever calls upon the NAME of the Lord SHALL BE saved."

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Esaias

The modern state of Israel attacked a US naval vessel in 1967. http://www.usslibertyveterans.org

Israel has nuclear weapons and a proven track record of unilateral aggression against other countries.

Israel is no better than any of the other countries over there, and worse than some of them.

No need for us to fight their wars, or give them billions of dollars every year (just like we do the Palestinians, by the way).

Our foreign policy is so messed up it would take Divine Intervention to straighten it out (which it will, also by the way...)

USS Liberty my father in law Lt. Col Sherman Pratt attended the funeral Captain William L. McGonagle when he was buried at Arlington cemetery. Israel deliberately attacked an unarmed United States naval vessel. This story is virtually unknown to Americans.

http://www.gtr5.com/summary_of_events.htm

http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHART...ssliberty.html

http://www.wrmea.org/1993-june/the-a...-26-years.html

http://www.ifamericansknew.org/us_ints/ussliberty.html