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[Esaias]

As for old hymns putting people to sleep...

[Esaias]

Here's another old hymn likely to put people to sleep:

'Let The Holy Ghost Come In'

[Esaias]

Hey, check this out! This is how you do a children's song!

[houston]

*makes note to block Esaias*

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by houston

*makes note to block Esaias*

[consapente89]

Esaias...honest question. I have listened to a handful of your songs and exempts from worship services. Usually very exuberant with a lot of shouting and sounds like dancing and what not....however I don't recall hearing anyone speak in tongues in the ones I have listened to. Maybe I've over looked it. Do people typically speak in tongues in your meetings?

[mfblume]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Esaias...honest question. I have listened to a handful of your songs and exempts from worship services. Usually very exuberant with a lot of shouting and sounds like dancing and what not....however I don't recall hearing anyone speak in tongues in the ones I have listened to. Maybe I've over looked it. Do people typically speak in tongues in your meetings?

I'm not Esaias, and I'm not speaking for him, but your post made me think of this....

Many speak in tongues, but not in church unless it's to precede an interpretation due to this passage:

1 Corinthians 14:18-19 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: (19) Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

1 Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by consapente89

Esaias...honest question. I have listened to a handful of your songs and exempts from worship services. Usually very exuberant with a lot of shouting and sounds like dancing and what not....however I don't recall hearing anyone speak in tongues in the ones I have listened to. Maybe I've over looked it. Do people typically speak in tongues in your meetings?

Yes, however, when people speak in tongues (myself, for example) unless it's a message for the church we usually try not to 'be heard'. After all, Paul said if one has not the interpretation and there is no interpreter, then let the tongue-speaker 'keep silent and speak to God'. The recordings I put online are only a part of what is recorded each sabbath. I usually do not put our prayers online because I don't really think that's appropriate under most circumstances - that is to say, I am not too interested in 'hey, listen to us pray, aren't we spiritual?'.

Speaking in tongues, unless is an interpreted message for the church, is according to the apostle private prayer between the individual and God. It does occur in our meetings, we do not however emphasise it (unless someone was getting the Holy Ghost, or someone was bringing a message to the church).

Also, keep in mind the only recording equipment we use is a cell phone. I have noticed that if there is a din of people praying or worshipping some people simply cannot be heard on the recording due to the mic quality.

There have been some serious 'altar service' times that will never be put online, because, again, I do not see much value in public broadcasting of prayers. But short answer, yes, we do speak in tongues - although I would also say the incidence of speaking in tongues is far greater in individual prayer times than in corporate meetings.

I myself, if tongues start coming forth in my prayer or worship, will intentionally quiet down so as not to be heard unless I know the Lord is giving a message to the church.

[Esaias]

One other thing - we have different people at different stages of their walk with God. Some are still learning how to pray in their OWN tongue! We have several that, although they have been baptised in the name of the Lord, have not yet received the Holy Ghost. So there is a range of people in our small group.

Also, none of us believe one can speak in tongues on command, at the drop of a hat. We have most of us been around folks who seem to be able to flick it on and off like a light switch, and have not been too impressed. So we all generally aren't going to be heard in church speaking in tongues unless the Spirit gives the utterance. We are most assuredly not charismatics.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I'm not Esaias, and I'm not speaking for him, but your post made me think of this....

Many speak in tongues, but not in church unless it's to precede an interpretation due to this passage:

1 Corinthians 14:18-19 I thank my God, I speak with tongues more than ye all: (19) Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue.

1 Corinthians 14:27 If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret.

That's the way we look at it. We do not tell anyone to 'hush up', but most of us will be quiet in that aspect unless interpretation is coming forth.

There have been times, however, especially in prayer meetings, when tongues and travail is all you could hear.