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10-10-2016, 12:55 AM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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Originally Posted by Esaias
Biblically speaking, 'offend' does not mean 'upset' nor does it mean 'to cause someone to be upset by saying mean things about them.'
It actually means 'to sin against God and one's neighbour'. So, to 'offend someone' Biblically would mean to cause them to sin.
I think the more accurate term for the subject of this thread would be 'reproach'. To reproach someone is to say negative things about them, call them names, talk mean about them.
Which Jesus was wont to do on occasion...
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Yeah, you're right. Offend or offense in the Bible is usually something like skandalizo in the Greek, if memory serves, and, as a cognate in English, means to scandalize. To offend someone is to cause them to stumble and lose their faith in God.
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10-10-2016, 01:00 AM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
My dad can seem pretty rough around the edges at time, but he's been around and through a lot, and has gained quite a bit of wisdom in his old age.
One question he always insists people ask is:
What does Jesus have to do with any of it?
And if the answer, is "nothing", then, there you go. If Jesus isn't involved, then it doesn't matter what anyone else says or does.
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10-10-2016, 05:15 PM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
My dad was an atheist.
If he thought anyone in the neighborhood said anything against his family. He would go to them and them alone.
He also said that Christians use the Bible as a book of suggestions.
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10-11-2016, 09:36 AM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
i'm pretty sure God doesn't care if you call yourself an atheist, if you then go and manifest Christ to people...
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10-11-2016, 09:47 AM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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i'm pretty sure God doesn't care if you call yourself an atheist, if you then go and manifest Christ to people...
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So we are saved by works?
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10-11-2016, 03:16 PM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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So we are saved by works?
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i would say "no," because works done from a desire to get rewarded with heaven are not done from love. And "yes," because faith without works is dead.
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10-11-2016, 05:06 PM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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i'm pretty sure God doesn't care if you call yourself an atheist, if you then go and manifest Christ to people...
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The FOOL had said in his heart there is no GOD.
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10-11-2016, 06:07 PM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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The FOOL had said in his heart there is no GOD.
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of course, but this does not address the many reasons one might call themselves an atheist, and we have more than one passage that alludes to the point here.
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10-11-2016, 06:09 PM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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i would say "no," because works done from a desire to get rewarded with heaven are not done from love. And "yes," because faith without works is dead.
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Wrong.
...again.
lol
Even if works are not done with the intention to earn heaven, even if God chose to save them for those works then that is still salvation by works. It doesn't matter the intention. It matters what actually saves.
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10-11-2016, 06:10 PM
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Re: The effects of hurting someone's family
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of course, but this does not address the many reasons one might call themselves an atheist, and we have more than one passage that alludes to the point here.
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Let's not redefine words. "a" means no. Theist means believer in God. ATHEIST is someone who does not believe in God.
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