Lee Stoneking has canceled Goodlettsville

[good samaritan]

I haven't heard Stoneking's teaching on women's hair, but to say that it is witchcraft, I am sure it is a stretch. There are scriptures that no doubt lead him to believe what he does. I am not saying I agree, but I am with JD on this. You shouldn't kick a man when he is down.

[jediwill83]

guys there is plenty I have believed and espoused that was wrong in the past only I didn't have a larger platform or voice to spread it.

Not gonna *kick* anyone anymore when they face misfortune to their health.


If you can't pray for or be willing to minister encouragement about or to someone going through something like this, you certainly won't do it for the "least of these" meaning those with no connection to Truth of any kind.

Yeah I know...Osamas wives, HMH, I know all that...we point out the off the wall stuff, but I say that underneath those things is a man who HAS and IS used by God to minister to saint and sinner alike.

If this is all you can dredge up against the man, I hope to God none of you ever find out about the faults I've had....I'd never get anymore prayer or encouragement from you.

Illness is not of God...it is a product of the Fall...aging is a product of the Fall.

Logically if we mock and laugh at a man under the influence of these things are we celebrating his wounding and weakening by the enemy?

Well we know that it's not God doing it because sickness and disease was defeated at the whipping post and Jesus wasn't beaten to save us from Himself...so it has to be the work of the enemy....

Just pray for the man...if I was in driving distance I'd show up in person and do it and make sure he was being taken care of as I would with each and every one of you.

Again...if we can't be loving and compassionate to those we have much in common with, how can we say we are loving and compassionate to those with far different beliefs?

No I'm not a "fan"

Just trying to be a better person than I used to be.

Yeah I'll still hassle Aquila about politics and argue to a standstill but you'd better believe it that if he needed help or prayer I'd do everything possible...don't let our disagreements lead to scorn, derision or mocking.

Read in Ezekiel what God says that He would do to those who laughed, said "aha!", sang, stomped, rejoiced, mocked when Israel faced the judgement of God and were carried into Babylon.

Yeah He wasn't amused and He laid waste to those who mocked.

If God lays waste to those who mocked when He brings judgement upon a deserving people...how does God feel when one who carries and professes His name is stricken down by not God...but the enemy? How much more angry does God get when we take pleasure in that misfortune?

and if you holler"ouch!" you shouldn't have had your toes out....

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by randyabrown

That is correct. I hadn't heard of Josh Herring before, but there are several videos on YouTube of him preaching.

Nice guy. He and I attended church together for awhile.

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

No one has celebrated him on this thread.

I was hoping to stop the shredding of an old and sick man of God.

Compassion? Anyone?

Agreed. I am flawed in ways that Stoneking is not, and vice-versa. The same goes for all of us. I am in much need of mercy right now. Though I have disagreed with him at times, I will pray for Bro. Stoneking.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson

Originally Posted by CC1 View Post

But will he deliver a message on the power of a woman's uncut hair as well as Lee Stoneking? Could be a missed opportunity for the women there to learn about what a talisman their uncut hair is.

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The only thing I disagree with more than SOME of Evangelist Stoneking's ideas and doctrines is your lack of basic concern for this human being-- a man of God with a few flawed doctrines who has, in spite of his flaws, been chosen by God to impact the Body of Christ. This man is now apparently pretty ill... and old.

Given the context off this thread, it would be poor taste to start to bash him in this thread.

Will you two PLEASE pray for him?

Maybe I missed that he was seriously ill? It certainly wasn't in the opening post, and another poster speculated illness could be the reason. *IF* that is the case, I wish death on no one. I didn't rejoice in the death if Paul or Jan Crouch, though they've contributed to much propagation of heresy, I wouldn't rejoice in LS passing if he is indeed sick unto death.

That said 1)such a sickness is only vaguely speculated at in this thread 2)death is all of our lot, and those who teach should strongly consider this 3)what a man preaches publicly and repeatedly is fair game.

If you preach damaging heresy, expect criticism unless you repent and recant. Period.

[Jason B]

Originally Posted by jediwill83

guys there is plenty I have believed and espoused that was wrong in the past only I didn't have a larger platform or voice to spread it.

And because you didnt have a large platfirm, little was said or written to correct you. Once you become a public figure, and a national evangelist, speaking in organization sanctioned camps and conferences, and preach hereticly, and doctor your personal bio, and embellish untruths, and quote occultic sources as an authority to justify your teaching, and are then refuse to heed the critique of your teaching, (or even publicly go after those exposing your errors as LS did with an AFF poster, DA), while shielding yourself with the claim of anointing, then thats a whole different ballgame.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Not gonna *kick* anyone anymore when they face misfortune to their health.

Is that what is going on? It is verified? All this thread was about was LS not preaching at a particular church and someone replacing him.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

If you can't pray for or be willing to minister encouragement about or to someone going through something like this, you certainly won't do it for the "least of these" meaning those with no connection to Truth of any kind.

I don't know of anyone who wouldn't pray for LS. This wasn't a prayer request thread, it was a change of plans posted in the fellowship hall.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Yeah I know...Osamas wives, HMH, I know all that...we point out the off the wall stuff, but I say that underneath those things is a man who HAS and IS used by God to minister to saint and sinner alike.

I know Benny Hinn has made several false prophecies, claimed Jesus would physically appear with him on stage at a crusade, said he'd like to blow off John MacArthur's head with a Holy Ghost Machine gun, staged healings while putting the actual sick folk in another room to view the conference on video, far from the stage, stayed in 25k a night hotels with money from donations, said there were 9 members of the trinity, and all that off the wall stuff, but underneath all those things is a man who (many would say) HAS and IS used by God to minister to saint and sinner alike. Once ole Benny even presented the gospel in a way that would put most preachers to shame, oh and he rightly criticized Joel Osteen for being soft on the gospel....., but he's getting up in age, and now the FBI done raided his ministry headquarters, so lets ignore that and celebrate his ministry.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

If this is all you can dredge up against the man, I hope to God none of you ever find out about the faults I've had....I'd never get anymore prayer or encouragement from you.

Apples and oranges

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Logically if we mock and laugh at a man under the influence of these things are we celebrating his wounding and weakening by the enemy?

Who mocked the man? And again, who even said he was sickly? I only remember one poster speculating that.

Originally Posted by jediwill83

Well we know that it's not God doing it because sickness and disease was defeated at the whipping post and Jesus wasn't beaten to save us from Himself...so it has to be the work of the enemy....

Its another discussion, but "by his stripes we are healed" is amongst the most misunderstood and misapplied scriptures in the pentecostal/charismatic movements.

[Jermyn Davidson]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Why did Brother Stoneking cancel?

Originally Posted by randyabrown

They said "health issues". I'm not sure if he's sick or what the situation is. I've heard he's canceled a lot in the past few months for health issues.

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Let's keep him in prayer in Jesus name

There is NOTHING speculative about the clear reason given why Evangelist Stoneking will not be preaching in Goodlettsville.

So stop it.

Originally Posted by Jason B

Maybe I missed that he was seriously ill?

No. Either you missed that he was seriously ill or you didn't. There is no "maybe" in this situation. I have demonstrated how it is likely that you didn't.

Again, stop it. Don't try to justify something that is clearly wrong. Are you a Christian in heart? Then soften it already and move on.

Originally Posted by Jason B

It certainly wasn't in the opening post, and another poster speculated illness could be the reason. *IF* that is the case, I wish death on no one. I didn't rejoice in the death if Paul or Jan Crouch, though they've contributed to much propagation of heresy, I wouldn't rejoice in LS passing if he is indeed sick unto death.

Sick unto death? Who talks like that? Your heart is cold and you need to repent.

Originally Posted by Jason B

That said 1)such a sickness is only vaguely speculated at in this thread

The devil is a liar and you are proving to not be that far behind.

Originally Posted by Jason B

2)death is all of our lot, and those who teach should strongly consider this 3)what a man preaches publicly and repeatedly is fair game.

Fair game? It was plainly stated that he would not be preaching because of an illness. Your attempt to turn this thread into a repudiation of an aged, godly man who is ill reflects very poorly on your character.

There is a time and place for everything. Find another thread to thrash Evangelist Stoneking-- there about a thousand on here already!

Originally Posted by Jason B

If you preach damaging heresy, expect criticism unless you repent and recant. Period.

Generally speaking, I think Apostolics in general preach damaging heresey-- but I have enough love for the BODY OF CHRIST in general to show a little concern and respect for this man who has been mightily used by God over and over again.


Oh and who are you? What are your contributions to the Body of Christ? I bet you can't even carry Evangelist Stoneking's shoes-- let alone fill them in a pulpit, in an airport, or in a prayer room.

If you attack a man of God who is well-aged and ill, expect criticism unless you repent. Period.

[randyabrown]

Thanks Jermyn.

To clarify:

When I said "They said" I was referring to Goodlettsville when I called them this week and asked if he would be there. The reason I called is because I was concerned about his health. I had talked to another UPC pastor (Bruce Klien) that said LS wasn't getting around well and has stopped going to a lot of Churches. I had heard of several other Churches that he had cancelled recently. The only phrase any of them have used is "health issues".

[CC1]

Me making a tongue in cheek joke about his heretical teachings in no way means I am not compassionate about any health issues he may be facing and his advanced years. I also face health issues and am getting old so I fully understand that situation although not to the extent he is experiencing.

I am praying for LS and for healing for his body. You don't have to believe that somebody is doctrinally correct to do that and mean it.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by n david

From an admin, no less.

Yes, no less!