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Old 09-03-2017, 10:33 PM
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I am serious DB!

If not for you, I would have never figured this out....



15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.



This clearly includes us(the Church) into their future covenant(as per chapter 8).

You kept shoving it into my face and the Holy Ghost said..."look"!!!

You have just started a revolution my friend!
You said that the Church was Israel in the OT.

Are you replacement theology?
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You da man, DB. You have no idea what you started.
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Old 09-03-2017, 10:59 PM
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You da man, DB. You have no idea what you started.
For sure you have no idea.
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15 Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before,

16 This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;

17 And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more.



This clearly includes us(the Church) into their future covenant(as per chapter 8).

You kept shoving it into my face and the Holy Ghost said..."look"!!!

You have just started a revolution my friend!
Why do you insist the new covenant is future? We have come to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant. That means we are in the new covenant, it is a present reality, it has already been made.

But you say the new covenant is future, not yet? That means you have no covenant with God, Sean.

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Why do you insist the new covenant is future? We have come to Jesus the mediator of the new covenant. That means we are in the new covenant, it is a present reality, it has already been made.

But you say the new covenant is future, not yet? That means you have no covenant with God, Sean.

No, the New Covenant is now, but we are included in National Israel's future, fully revealed Covenant. It was originally promised to National Israel as per Acts 1 and Jeremiah 31, Etc., but we the church are merely included in their future promise. It is all the same Covenant.

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No, the New Covenant is now, but we are included in National Israel's future fully revealed Covenant. It was originally promised to National Israel as per acts 1 and Jeremiah 31 Etc but we the church are included in their future promise. It is all the same Covenant.

How is it the same if it is the FULLY REVEALED NEW COVENANT?

Do we now have the Partially Revealed New Covenant?
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No, the New Covenant is now, but we are included in National Israel's future, fully revealed Covenant. It was originally promised to National Israel as per Acts 1 and Jeremiah 31, Etc., but we the church are merely included in their future promise. It is all the same Covenant.
Also, you posted that the Church and National Israel are the same in the OT.
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The promise of a covenant is to Future National Israel first in the Old Testament, not us. We are simply included in their future Covenant. As a matter of fact, our portion of the Covenant is only partially revealed, and when Jesus Christ returns to Future National Israel, the Covenant will be fully revealed. Welcome to partialville.

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How is it the same if it is the FULLY REVEALED NEW COVENANT?

Do we now have the Partially Revealed New Covenant?
The covenant that we are included in, with future National Israel, cannot be fully revealed until Jesus Christ returns. Then the gifts will cease and we will see Christ personally.
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How is it the same if it is the FULLY REVEALED NEW COVENANT?

Do we now have the Partially Revealed New Covenant?
Yes, now we see through a glass Darkly, but then, face to face.
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