Uncut Hair

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by houston

Why state “to let the hair grow” when he could have said “uncut.”

Did you get some rest?

[Evang.Benincasa]

1 Corinthians 11:15

mentre è una gloria per la donna lasciarseli crescere? La chioma le è stata data a guisa di velo.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

The issue about hair is that you guys read in English.

What does Thayers mean by - by designating hair as an ornament (the notion of length being only secondary and suggested).

I recently heard someone just preach that our long uncut hair is a covenant. Of course, that would then mean it isn't a suggestion.

[houston]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

Did you get some rest?

Hardly. Forgot the term. That sleep when you feel like you’re awake. I did make it to Houston a few minutes before 7:00a.m.

[consapente89]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

1 Corintios 11:15

15 Por el contrario, a la mujer dejarse crecer el cabello le es honroso; porque en lugar de velo le es dado el cabello.

Doesn't say long here.

Do you believe in a secondary covering, uncut hair or both?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

What does Thayers mean by - by designating hair as an ornament (the notion of length being only secondary and suggested).

I recently heard someone just preach that our long uncut hair is a covenant. Of course, that would then mean it isn't a suggestion.

Because the Greek word κομᾷ means to wear the hair as tresses long flowing ornamentation. When we read how other Greek writers before, during, and after the New Testament use κομᾷ in their writings. We see it used as having the hair as long flowing tresses. Length being secondary I would have to ask Mr Thayer. Because when you look up the Greek word and how it was used in Antiquity it always denotes growing, and flowing down. The Translators of the KJV never even dreamed that we would be hitting a stump over the word long used in the chapter. Due to their understanding of their own culture where, one women always covered their heads in some fashion, and never cut their hair. Men wore their hair either bald, or shoulder length. Mostly their cultural understanding was handed down from the Vulgate of Rome, which explains the verse as a woman have nutriat in the verse meaning to allow to grow, to nurture it as one does a child, not hindering the growth. Hence the Italian crescere, and the Spanish "crecer el cabello."

[Tithesmeister]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Being a brother if my hair is to my behind but trimmed, is it long?

Yes, I believe that the consensus would be that it is long. Which would be contrary to the verse that is quoted later . . .

1 Corinthians 11:16

14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?

It is pretty obvious that the long in long hair is going to be subjective, as it is for women. Long as compared to what?

What I would like to focus on is the word nature. To me nature is what happens if there is no outside interference. So what is nature teaching us?

This is the way I understand it. If we take a look around in any congregation, we will see many times more bald men than we will see bald women. It is indeed unusual to see a bald woman. A bald man? Not so much! So there's that.

The other verse I would like to look at is verse 16 . . .

16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

If any man be contentious . . . Is there any contentiousness from any man?
I think it is obvious that there is. Some are contending for long hair, some are contending for hair that is uncut, some are contending that it really doesn't matter that much. There is much contending on the subject of long hair for women! So we have qualified in the contention category.

So what does the remainder of the verse say? . . . we have no such custom, neither the churches of God.

If there is contention, we have no such custom. It is not there. It is interesting that Paul refers to it as a custom and not a commandment as well.

That's my thoughts. As I have said earlier in the thread, my preference for my house is uncut hair for the ladies, however if you want to contend with me about it, I refuse to do so. According to the scripture.

[Michael The Disciple]

Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

1 Corintios 11:15

15 Por el contrario, a la mujer dejarse crecer el cabello le es honroso; porque en lugar de velo le es dado el cabello.

Doesn't say long here.

What does this say? What language is it?

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by houston

Hardly. Forgot the term. That sleep when you feel like you’re awake. I did make it to Houston a few minutes before 7:00a.m.

Bro, please and also Michael. You must get restful sleep. Caffeine has a half life 5 to 6 hours. Meaning that it is ONLY to be consumed in the morning. The later you drink it, the harder it is to get rest. No "restful" sleep will pretty much kill you. What happens first is plummeting testosterone. Now, this is super dangerous. You as a male need your T levels at their optimum, and it is no joke. Hormonal imbalances can cause all sorts of issues, which show up first emotionally. Also with falling T levels you have rising cortisol levels, which not only destroy T levels, but attack brain function, joints, ligament, muscle tissue, blood circulation, motivation. Being unmotivated and being tired, doesn't mean we will achieve "restful" deep sleep. I believe Chris even posted how the screen electronics can jam up our sleep by actually keeping us awake. Also where we sleep is another factor, and a mattress which is perfect for us is important. Also pillow, also if we snore or if we stop breathing during our sleep that our body has to constantly wake us up or we suffocate. Anyway, with all that being said first, watch the caffeine (in all forms) intake.

[Evang.Benincasa]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

Being a brother if my hair is to my behind but trimmed, is it long?

Bro, aren't you bald?