Head covering - Page 3

Apostolic1ness · #1 08-23-2018, 06:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Esaias

What does he have to do with anything?

He is Black He is an entertainer so he's in the spotlight and women have second coverings in his church.

Michael The Disciple · #2 08-23-2018, 04:33 AM

First off IN GENERAL it seems to be a fact from my own research of the matter there must be EXTREMELY few White Apostolic groups in America who teach the headcovering as a veil.

It also seems to be true that among Black Apostolics in America many if not most DO.

What I conclude from that is IN THAT ISSUE, the Black Apostolic believers are more obedient to the truth than are the White believers.

berkeley · #3 08-23-2018, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

First off IN GENERAL it seems to be a fact from my own research of the matter there must be EXTREMELY few White Apostolic groups in America who teach the headcovering as a veil.

It also seems to be true that among Black Apostolics in America many if not most DO.

What I conclude from that is IN THAT ISSUE, the Black Apostolic believers are more obedient to the truth than are the White believers.

MOST? Really? Visit a PAW lately?

Michael The Disciple · #4 08-23-2018, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by berkeley

MOST? Really? Visit a PAW lately?

No. I actually forgot about them. What about them?

Aquila · #5 08-23-2018, 09:33 AM

In I Corinthians 11, Paul was addressing a specific issue among the believers in Corinth. The issue wasn't hair nor head coverings. I believe that this issue was this:

I Corinthians 11:4-6 (ESV)
4 Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head, 5 but every wife who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head, since it is the same as if her head were shaven. 6 For if a wife will not cover her head, then she should cut her hair short. But since it is disgraceful for a wife to cut off her hair or shave her head, let her cover her head.

The issue was that by not wearing a veil a woman was dishonoring her "head". This leads me to ask the following questions:

What is meant by "head" here?
How did this dishonor a woman's "head"?
Does not wearing a veil still dishonor a woman's "head" today in 21st Century America?
If not, what would dishonor a woman's "head" today?

berkeley · #6 08-23-2018, 11:39 AM

That’s not the topic

berkeley · #7 08-23-2018, 02:23 PM

Nothing

votivesoul · #8 08-24-2018, 11:26 PM

Think of how much we could learn and be edified if the debate Esaias proposed was actually taken up, instead of all the shoot-from-the-hip comments?

Are there any takers for the con position?

Amanah · #9 08-25-2018, 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul

Think of how much we could learn and be edified if the debate Esaias proposed was actually taken up, instead of all the shoot-from-the-hip comments?

Are there any takers for the con position?

it is important, some people will argue for a cloth covering, then say its a cultural issue and dismiss the principle of covering altogether.

Tithesmeister · #10 08-25-2018, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by votivesoul

Think of how much we could learn and be edified if the debate Esaias proposed was actually taken up, instead of all the shoot-from-the-hip comments?

Are there any takers for the con position?

I would LOVE to debate Esaias on head coverings. I DO believe that it would be a learning experience that would benefit the community and edify the church. We could slice and dice scripture as well as research the history and culture of the early church. It would be great fun.

The trouble is . . .

In regards to the head covering . . .

I think he is mostly right.

So I don’t have much incentive to debate him.

I’m stocking up on popcorn though, in case someone else decides to take him up on his offer.