Holy Ghost

[1ofthechosen]

Originally Posted by jfrog

You should be careful of blasphemy if the HOly Ghost. Bearing false witness against the Holy Ghost is blasphemy isn’t it?

Thats not even what that means. My Bible says "test the spirits and see If its of God", just from what you say about your experience I can tell you that's not it. You may of experienced something and you may even believe it, but if you think what you can just roll off your own tongue in your own power is tongues you dont have any idea what your talking about.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Thats not even what that means. My Bible says "test the spirits and see If its of God", just from what you say about your experience I can tell you that's not it.

So talking like you know about something that the Holy Ghost did when you weren't there, when you didn't see it with your own eyes and hear it with your own ears, when other apostolics that were there would say you are wrong... and you think you are in a position to be able to judge what God did in this matter? That you think you are reveals your flaws. That you would even attempt to assert with certainty that God didn't do something given the above circumstances says far more about you and your walk with God than it ever could about me and my experiences. You really should repent lest God hold you accountable for diminishing the work of his Holy Spirit.

[consapente89]

I fear much of Pentecost is living on the human mind's imitation of a previous work of the Spirit. The brain can learn to mimic "tongues" after the Spirit is gone. I also fear that we are making reprobates out of people that haven't even been born yet when we are attempting to pray people through to the Holy Ghost that haven't fully repented...and further by telling someone that they have received the Holy Ghost when we see their lips tremble, tongue wag or hear a couple unintelligible syllables.

I hope, jfrog, that at some point you will turn to God in genuine repentance and experience the genuine power of the Holy Ghost.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I fear much of Pentecost is living on the human mind's imitation of a previous work of the Spirit. The brain can learn to mimic "tongues" after the Spirit is gone. I also fear that we are making reprobates out of people that haven't even been born yet when we are attempting to pray people through to the Holy Ghost that haven't fully repented...and further by telling someone that they have received the Holy Ghost when we see their lips tremble, tongue wag or hear a couple unintelligible syllables.

I hope, jfrog, that at some point you will turn to God in genuine repentance and experience the genuine power of the Holy Ghost.

Thank you. If you had known me all those years ago there would be no doubt in your mind that I had.

Also thank you for understanding my point and stating it much better than I could.

[Bro Ramel Rush]

Originally Posted by consapente89

I fear much of Pentecost is living on the human mind's imitation of a previous work of the Spirit. The brain can learn to mimic "tongues" after the Spirit is gone. I also fear that we are making reprobates out of people that haven't even been born yet when we are attempting to pray people through to the Holy Ghost that haven't fully repented...and further by telling someone that they have received the Holy Ghost when we see their lips tremble, tongue wag or hear a couple unintelligible syllables.

I hope, jfrog, that at some point you will turn to God in genuine repentance and experience the genuine power of the Holy Ghost.

AMEN!

[votivesoul]

There is no reason to think that just because you don't go to church or barely ever pray that you cannot still speak with other tongues, the same as you once did however long ago.

That's the illogic of your position. It just means that God hasn't removed the Holy Spirit from you and that any time you do pray, He permits you to speak with other tongues because He is trying to edify you and build up your most holy faith. Perhaps He is trying to allow the Holy Spirit to make intercession for you to lead you back to repentance and belief?

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

There is no reason to think that just because you don't go to church or barely ever pray that you cannot still speak with other tongues, the same as you once did however long ago.

That's the illogic of your position. It just means that God hasn't removed the Holy Spirit from you and that any time you do pray, He permits you to speak with other tongues because He is trying to edify you and build up your most holy faith. Perhaps He is trying to allow the Holy Spirit to make intercession for you to lead to back to repentance and belief?

Interesting. I hadn't considered that possibility before.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

There is no reason to think that just because you don't go to church or barely ever pray that you cannot still speak with other tongues, the same as you once did however long ago.

That's the illogic of your position. It just means that God hasn't removed the Holy Spirit from you and that any time you do pray, He permits you to speak with other tongues because He is trying to edify you and build up your most holy faith. Perhaps He is trying to allow the Holy Spirit to make intercession for you to lead to back to repentance and belief?

It’s an illogic position to think someone that does go to church, doesn’t pray and doesn’t even really believe can still have the Holy Ghost. He needs to repent, go to church and start praying.

[votivesoul]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

It’s an illogic position to think someone that does go to church, doesn’t pray and doesn’t even really believe can still have the Holy Ghost. He needs to repent, go to church and start praying.

"Oh, the depths and riches of God's mercy" doesn't ring a bell? God alone is the only One allowed to determine when or if He's going to remove the Holy Spirit. We don't get to judge that, no matter what anyone, jfrog or otherwise, tells us about their current condition.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by votivesoul

"Oh, the depths and riches of God's mercy" doesn't ring a bell? God alone is the only One allowed to determine when or if He's going to remove the Holy Spirit. We don't get to judge that, no matter what anyone, jfrog or otherwise, tells us about their current condition.

It sure does ring a bell. His mercy is that he still has an opportunity to repent.