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07-18-2007, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Because something is not forgiven in this age or the age to come is not proof that it will never be forgiven,...
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Mark 3:29 But he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation.
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07-18-2007, 11:34 AM
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Resident PeaceMaker
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The wages of sin is death or perishing not ultimate reconciliation.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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07-18-2007, 11:35 AM
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Shaking the dust off my shoes.
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Every time this subject is brought up warning bells start screaming their sound in my spirit.
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07-18-2007, 11:38 AM
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What universalists cannot accept is the fact that God has the Sovereign right and authority to destroy sinners.
That doesn't measure up to their standard of 'love'.
But bad things happen when we judge God by our standards, instead allowing Him to judge us by His standard.
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07-18-2007, 01:24 PM
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Scripture even says that scarcely shall the righteous be saved.
God's love is unconditional!
His judgement is true. He proclaims his judgement against sin to provide an opportunity to have mercy.
Scripture says that justice and judgement surround his throne.... if you will, his reign is based on equitibility and fulfilling what he has declared.
People walk away from God. People turn their backs on Christ. People sin and stubbornly refuse to repent. God will judge who he sees fit and have mercy where he sees fit. He's God.
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07-18-2007, 01:25 PM
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OH.... to have a theology that decides God will save everyone eventually because of his great love... is in opposition to scripture.
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07-18-2007, 01:27 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DEAK
OH.... to have a theology that decides God will save everyone eventually because of his great love... is in opposition to scripture.
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be careful deak you are making to much sense, lol,dt 
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07-18-2007, 06:27 PM
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crakjak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Eliseus
Mark 3:29 But he who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit never has forgiveness, but is subject to eternal condemnation.
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Literal translation is: "age abiding" condemnation, not endless condemnation.
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07-18-2007, 06:32 PM
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crakjak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
The wages of sin is death or perishing not ultimate reconciliation.
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Yes, and Jesus "died", and I believe His death brought justification to the same folks that Adam's "sin" brought condemnation. Just as Paul so ably declares in his letters.
How is it that tradition holds Adam's sin to be more powerful than Jesus' righteous act? Adam's "sin" condemns ALL, likewise Jesus' "death" justifies ALL. But we choose to have more faith in Adam's curse than Jesus' death.
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07-18-2007, 06:35 PM
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crakjak
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DEAK
Scripture even says that scarcely shall the righteous be saved.
God's love is unconditional!
His judgement is true. He proclaims his judgement against sin to provide an opportunity to have mercy.
Scripture says that justice and judgement surround his throne.... if you will, his reign is based on equitibility and fulfilling what he has declared.
People walk away from God. People turn their backs on Christ. People sin and stubbornly refuse to repent. God will judge who he sees fit and have mercy where he sees fit. He's God.
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God's mercy and His severity is for the same purpose, to bring many sons to glory. Why do you think his justice serves to destroy endlessly rather than to bring the harder cases to righteousness?
Nobody and I mean nobody would turn to God except God draw that individual, so why is it that God can turn the worst of sinners (as Paul called himself) yet fail to turn everyone. Is that not showing partiality?
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