Just for Bro. Steve, "ALL TRINITARIANS ARE NOT LOST"

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

I don't know what Crakjak believes. All I know is that God is God not SE and He has chosen to transform lives and fill them with the Holy Ghost and give them powerful ministries that are setting people free from their sins. If you choose to attribute this work of the Spirit to Satan that's your decision. I just wouldn't want to be you standing before God someday.

Jesus said "Ye MUST be born again" not me. These folks have not have their sins remitted thus they will die in their sins. Do I doubt some have had an experience of some type? No. The disciples got a 'Bethany blessing' but went on to get a Jerusalem experience. Some folks mistake a blessing or a touch for the new birth experience. ONLY the message preached and obeyed at Pentecost will save.
I believe there are sincere Catholics who confess to the priest and pray to Mary. And sincere JW's who think Jesus is a demi-god and are attempting to become the 144,000. And Mormons who have worn the water out being baptized proxy for their dead relatives. But are NOT saved.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Jesus said "Ye MUST be born again" not me. These folks have not have their sins remitted thus they will die in their sins. Do I doubt some have had an experience of some type? No. The disciples got a 'Bethany blessing' but went on to get a Jerusalem experience. Some folks mistake a blessing or a touch for the new birth experience. ONLY the message preached and obeyed at Pentecost will save.
I believe there are sincere Catholics who confess to the priest and pray to Mary. And sincere JW's who think Jesus is a demi-god and are attempting to become the 144,000. And Mormons who have worn the water out being baptized proxy for their dead relatives. But are NOT saved.

Because you have a distorted view of what it means to be "born again" doesn't alter the authenticity of someone else's experience and relationship with God.

There are also sincere UC's who are sincerely WRONG! If someone is speaking against the Holy Ghost, being sincerely wrong is probably the best hope they have of being forgiven when they stand before God someday.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Because you have a distorted view of what it means to be "born again" doesn't alter the authenticity of someone else's experience and relationship with God.

There are also sincere UC's who are sincerely WRONG! If someone is speaking against the Holy Ghost, being sincerely wrong is probably the best hope they have of being forgiven when they stand before God someday.

Don't lose any sleep over it I certainly won't. Folks who genuinely recieve the HGB will either follow it into truth or reject truth and be lost or did not really recieve it.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Don't lose any sleep over it I certainly won't. Folks who genuinely recieve the HGB will either follow it into truth or reject truth and be lost or did not really recieve it.

You mean reject YOUR truth, not THE truth. You deny the truth every time you reject the work of the Holy Ghost in the lives of millions of faithful and committed Christians all over the world. No one is going to be lost because they disagree with your interpretation of Scripture SE. I know it's heady stuff feeling that one has a position that allows him to condemn the rest of the Christian community to hell, and would not be consistent with most UC's self-righteous attitude to concede that God hasn't made them the depository of truth in the 21st Century.

[Whole Hearted]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Don't lose any sleep over it I certainly won't. Folks who genuinely recieve the HGB will either follow it into truth or reject truth and be lost or did not really recieve it.

AMEN Elder

You preach the ONLY saving message there is.

Anyone who is not baptized in Jesus name for the remission of sin is LOST.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

You mean reject YOUR truth, not THE truth. You deny the truth every time you reject the work of the Holy Ghost in the lives of millions of faithful and committed Christians all over the world. No one is going to be lost because they disagree with your interpretation of Scripture SE. I know it's heady stuff feeling that one has a position that allows him to condemn the rest of the Christian community to hell, and would not be consistent with most UC's self-righteous attitude to concede that God hasn't made them the depository of truth in the 21st Century.

Christian Community includes RCC??? JW's?? MOrmons??? Moonies?? Anglicans?? Greek Orthodox?? Universalism???

"If our gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost."

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Christian Community includes RCC??? JW's?? MOrmons??? Moonies?? Anglicans?? Greek Orthodox?? Universalism???

"If our gospel be hid it is hid to them that are lost."

Christian Community for me, includes all who have come to God as sinners and been saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Who, having been convicted by the Spirit, have repented of their sins and truly experienced a transformed life that has resulted in walking by faith with the Lord and the evidence of a Spirit-filled life.

All one has to do is get out into the Christian Community instead of being closeted in an Apostolic Church somewhere to see that those who deny the genuine relationship other Christian believers have with Jesus Christ, are willfully blind. Sorry, but I choose to walk in the light and rejoice in the changed lives of those who have passed from darkness into His marvelous light.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Christian Community for me, includes all who have come to God as sinners and been saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Who, having been convicted by the Spirit, have repented of their sins and truly experienced a transformed life that has resulted in walking by faith with the Lord and the evidence of a Spirit-filled life.

All one has to do is get out into the Christian Community instead of being closeted in an Apostolic Church somewhere to see that those who deny the genuine relationship other Christian believers have with Jesus Christ, are willfully blind. Sorry, but I choose to walk in the light and rejoice in the changed lives of those who have passed from darkness into His marvelous light.

Good post TB.

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Truly Blessed

Christian Community for me, includes all who have come to God as sinners and been saved by grace through faith in Jesus Christ. Who, having been convicted by the Spirit, have repented of their sins and truly experienced a transformed life that has resulted in walking by faith with the Lord and the evidence of a Spirit-filled life.

All one has to do is get out into the Christian Community instead of being closeted in an Apostolic Church somewhere to see that those who deny the genuine relationship other Christian believers have with Jesus Christ, are willfully blind. Sorry, but I choose to walk in the light and rejoice in the changed lives of those who have passed from darkness into His marvelous light.

A Christian without the message of the Apostles??????????

Without the new birth????????? Sir you believe in salvation by works instead of grace. Grace was the message preached at Pentecost.

[Truly Blessed]

Originally Posted by Steve Epley

A Christian without the message of the Apostles??????????

Without the new birth????????? Sir you believe in salvation by works instead of grace. Grace was the message preached at Pentecost.

I know it must frustrate you that there are millions of people who know Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Lord and have the righteous fruit of a Spirit-filled life that bears witness to the authenticity of that relationship, yet they don't embrace your "truth".

"A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit." (Mt. 7:18)