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09-24-2007, 09:06 PM
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Originally Posted by UltraCon
I know several ministers that have said that they will get out if this thing passes. I've not heard any of those recant. You might not see it right away but by the first of the year lots of cons (myself included) will be gone. I won't make a big deal about it, i'll just simply not send in my dues and let my name get dropped from the UPC minister's list. I think the UPC will have to release a special edition "Forward" for the first quarter next year in order to print all the names of those "no longer affiliated". JMO
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NOPE, it's all talk. I think the ultra cons will be surprised to see that when push comes to shove, not that many will leave.
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09-24-2007, 09:08 PM
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Smiles everyone...Smiles!!
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Originally Posted by ChicagoPastor
NOPE, it's all talk. I think the ultra cons will be surprised to see that when push comes to shove, not that many will leave.
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I do not think its gonna pass, so it probably does not matter.
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09-23-2007, 09:46 PM
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Allowing a pastor to advertise his/her church on television or to broadcast services on television does not force all others to advertise or broadcast.
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Apostolic in doctrine
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09-23-2007, 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Sam
Allowing a pastor to advertise his/her church on television or to broadcast services on television does not force all others to advertise or broadcast.
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Sam it's not about that, it's about only larger wealthier churches being able to afford advertising on television. It's about smaller churches not being able to be involved due to small budgets. It's not fair. All will be making a decision for only a few to profit from the vote.
Why risk a problem with others in the group over this?
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09-23-2007, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Sam it's not about that, it's about only larger wealthier churches being able to afford advertising on television. It's about smaller churches not being able to be involved due to small budgets. It's not fair. All will be making a decision for only a few to profit from the vote.
Why risk a problem with others in the group over this?
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I can advertise on local cable for $5.oo per spot. I don't see how that is so far out of our budget.
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09-23-2007, 11:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Sam it's not about that, it's about only larger wealthier churches being able to afford advertising on television. It's about smaller churches not being able to be involved due to small budgets. It's not fair. All will be making a decision for only a few to profit from the vote.
Why risk a problem with others in the group over this?
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I go to a small-ish church (we run like 200-250 or so on Sunday Mornings and I'm not sure on Sun/Wed night, but I'd be surprised if it were more than 150)
and we looked into advertising... you can get 20 30 second spots for 1100 airing between 7 and 9 AM and 5 and 6 PM... which means it is cheaper to run one 30 second tv ad than it is to get one ad out in a newspaper.... and its likely more people will see the tv ad...
and this is on a broadcast channel, its not even cable... Cable is cheaper...
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09-24-2007, 07:20 AM
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It's not easy being me.
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Originally Posted by redeemedcynic84
I go to a small-ish church (we run like 200-250 or so on Sunday Mornings and I'm not sure on Sun/Wed night, but I'd be surprised if it were more than 150)
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It's funny depending on where people are from what they consider big and small churches.
Here, 200-250 is a great big church.
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09-24-2007, 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chseeads
It's funny depending on where people are from what they consider big and small churches.
Here, 200-250 is a great big church.
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seriously??
I could see mid-sized, but how is 200-250 people big?
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09-24-2007, 08:01 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
Sam it's not about that, it's about only larger wealthier churches being able to afford advertising on television. It's about smaller churches not being able to be involved due to small budgets. It's not fair. All will be making a decision for only a few to profit from the vote.
Why risk a problem with others in the group over this?
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So your saying if I can't have it I don't want you to have it either?
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Difficult moments, SEEK GOD.
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09-24-2007, 11:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Esther
So your saying if I can't have it I don't want you to have it either?
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I'm saying move not the old landmarks.
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~Declaration of Independence
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