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10-01-2007, 10:33 PM
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God's Son
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Pearls before swine.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
OP and SE I will be praying that God take away the bitterness y'all feel against the mothership.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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10-01-2007, 10:35 PM
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God's Son
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Haven't you perfected the art of saying something you mean then turning around and says it means something else?
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Are we living in a vacuum??? ... Most of us here know what this is a reference to ...
The Elder insinuates that other officials outside of IAM plunder the funds ....
Maybe this will help ...
plunder
verb To rob of goods by force, especially in time of war: depredate, despoil, havoc, loot, pillage, ransack, rape, ravage, sack 2, spoliate, strip |
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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10-02-2007, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Praxeas
Mission dollars to CONSERVATIVE missionaries....his post is all about the Conservative Ministers
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Shouldn't it be... seeing as those are the ones purported to be leaving the UPCI?
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10-02-2007, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by tv1a
Are you suggesting support goes only to those who spread company propanda?
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Sick post! Typical of TV1A but sick never the less!
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10-02-2007, 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Are we living in a vacuum??? ... Most of us here know what this is a reference to ...
The Elder insinuates that other officials outside of IAM plunder the funds ....
Maybe this will help ...
plunder
verb To rob of goods by force, especially in time of war: depredate, despoil, havoc, loot, pillage, ransack, rape, ravage, sack 2, spoliate, strip |
Dan,
Considered in light of the FMD overhead, a case might be made for this word usage to be accurate. You see, 100% of every dollar passing through the IAM foundation goes to the designated ministry. Some, including the men who started the IAM foundation, saw the overhead as unnecessary plundering of contributed funds.
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10-02-2007, 07:20 AM
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Still Figuring It Out.
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Goodness gracious sakes alive...
With the exception of a few posts....what a thread of off the hip potshots.
Brother Epley and I don't always see eye to eye on things but there wasn't anything wrong with his post and nor was it bashing.
He was just saying that, for those who do choose move on both now and any other time, there is life beyond the UPC.
Amazing...
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10-02-2007, 07:36 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Louisiana
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
I certainly sympathize with those who feel their need to leave the UPC but the good news is many have made it without them forever. Good things are happening now outside the domain of the UPC in the ranks of conservatives namely:
1. The AMC meeting great meeting for conservative preachers and their families.
2. The IAM foundation a clearinghouse to send mission dollars without it being plundered by organizational officials.
3. THe Apostolic Compass a magazine for conservative preachers and churches.
4. Conferences-camps-meetings galore across this nation where hosted by conservative men with conservative men preaching.
Just to name o few. NOT COLD AT ALL!!!!!!!!
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Not to down what you are saying but I notice how you emphasize the men,men men thing.The UPC may not be perfact but at least they are more understanding when it comes to people who were divorced before they came to Jesus and don't deny women who are submitted ministry.
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10-02-2007, 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
Are we living in a vacuum??? ... Most of us here know what this is a reference to ...
The Elder insinuates that other officials outside of IAM plunder the funds ....
Maybe this will help ...
plunder
verb To rob of goods by force, especially in time of war: depredate, despoil, havoc, loot, pillage, ransack, rape, ravage, sack 2, spoliate, strip |
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL LLLLLLLLLL??????
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10-02-2007, 07:40 AM
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How is it that the UC's that want to leave are bitter? I guess maybe you libs don't read your own post. The main bitterness I read comes from the Lib post. Maybe nobody read the "Goodbye Kansas Preacher" thread, and we're bitter? The fact is that there is a large overhead with the FMD, we've been using IAM for a while for that very reason. Why do I want to put money in an officals pocket when I can put 100% in the missionary pocket? Also, we've been going to AMC for a while, we also take our kids to heritage. this will be an easy transition for us.
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10-02-2007, 07:40 AM
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Location: H-Town, Texas
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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLL LLLLLLLLLL??????
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No one is taking pot shots at FMD Phil and Dig??????
Elder Epley seems to agree the PLUNDERING IS NEFARIOUS.
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