anyone who considers faith and believing insignificant is stupid.
anyone who believes those of us who believe the Water Spirit doctrine discount faith is a jack wagon.
I see them sometimes when I'm passing through Mambypamby Land.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Water/Spirit doctrine doesn't discount faith, it discounts grace.
No. the tuff guys left. I’m just a mild mannered moderate who appears tuff to the local jackwagons from namby pamby land.
And the only people who believe W/S doctrine discounts grace are those who either do not understand it, or have made a conscious decision to abandon it.
As I have already said, I am at peace with my belief as well as at peace with those of you who believe differently…. I will add this caveat: so long as you choose to live at peace with me. Now if you want to tell me how small my faith is or how I discount grace… well now we are getting personal. I’ve never done a good job of backing up when pushed. I don’t intend to start now.
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No. the tuff guys left. I’m just a mild mannered moderate who appears tuff to the local jackwagons from namby pamby land.
And the only people who believe W/S doctrine discounts grace are those who either do not understand it, or have made a conscious decision to abandon it.
As I have already said, I am at peace with my belief as well as at peace with those of you who believe differently…. I will add this caveat: so long as you choose to live at peace with me. Now if you want to tell me how small my faith is or how I discount grace… well now we are getting personal. I’ve never done a good job of backing up when pushed. I don’t intend to start now.
Yeah, typical tough guy talk, Ferd.
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And the only people who believe W/S doctrine discounts grace are those who either do not understand it, or have made a conscious decision to abandon it
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You have no clue what you're talking about. I TAUGHT W/S doctrine for years!! I think I understood it just fine. I even thought I had a handle on Grace. Boy, was I ever wrong! I've made a conscious to abandon the doctrine BECAUSE I fully understand it.
Who says I'm not at "peace" with you. That doesn't mean we won't cross swords with ideas. It's not personal that I know you are missing out on how much more there is to this Grace story. You can take it personal, but that may just be your style.
Fact is, there's no room in your theology for those who have not been baptized the way you claim, and who have not spoken in tongues. You may say we are "at peace" but your theology doesn't even consider me a brother.
You have no clue what you're talking about. I TAUGHT W/S doctrine for years!! I think I understood it just fine. I even thought I had a handle on Grace. Boy, was I ever wrong! I've made a conscious to abandon the doctrine BECAUSE I fully understand it.
Who says I'm not at "peace" with you. That doesn't mean we won't cross swords with ideas. It's not personal that I know you are missing out on how much more there is to this Grace story. You can take it personal, but that may just be your style.
Fact is, there's no room in your theology for those who have not been baptized the way you claim, and who have not spoken in tongues. You may say we are "at peace" but your theology doesn't even consider me a brother.
Bro. as i have said already, I am at peace with my belief and I really am trying to be at peace with those who do not believe as I do. it is enough that we are all trying to get to the same place.
and I really am not a tuff guy..... sorry about that. I can act the part if it makes you feel better?
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and I see you ignored a half dozen posts dealing with content to take your pot shot at me... when all I did was give as good as i get.
yea. if you are going to make overtly immuature comments like the one our mutual friend made, expect a retort that addresses the mentality.
please not the previous email where I offered peace. back to you oh wise one who knows more than the rest of us.
Look, you said it, all I did was point it out. Don't put the blame on me for something you said. You're the one doing Bible-Smack-Talk, so start wearing the shoes that fit.
You may have offered peace to me, but when you use such inexcusable trash-talk to speak to one of the finest people on this forum, a dedicated pastor who gives deeply of himself for the flock he leads, then I'm gonna say something. Sorry.
You may have offered peace to me, but when you use such inexcusable trash-talk to speak to one of the finest people on this forum, a dedicated pastor who gives deeply of himself for the flock he leads, then I'm gonna say something. Sorry.
Thats NOW code for " someone from my belief camp"
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
Look, you said it, all I did was point it out. Don't put the blame on me for something you said. You're the one doing Bible-Smack-Talk, so start wearing the shoes that fit.
You may have offered peace to me, but when you use such inexcusable trash-talk to speak to one of the finest people on this forum, a dedicated pastor who gives deeply of himself for the flock he leads, then I'm gonna say something. Sorry.
blather. go back an re-read. the finest feller on the forum was doing the trash talking.
well before that I was simply posting along the theme of the thread.
now we have devolved. dont blame me. I am 100% in favor of house church.
the difference between me and the finest feller in these here parts is that I am also for church church and pasture church and jungle church.
and my good friend, quite with the traffic cop stuff. it makes you look silly. if the fine feller is so fine, he can certainly stand up for his own fine self.
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