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04-18-2016, 07:16 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Isaiah the Prophet.
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Wrong.
In the time of Isaiah the name was Yehoshua.
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04-18-2016, 07:31 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
I wonder why the Apostles never thought of using Isaiah 12:3 to prove to the 1st Century Judeans that Jesus was God?
Mike would you happen to know why they didn't use Isaiah 12:3?
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04-18-2016, 07:45 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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His name was Yehoshua.
Yehoshua: "the LORD is salvation."
I guess you are going to have to call everyone back who you been baptizing in a feminine noun.
yeshuah: salvation
Original Word: יְשׁוּעָה
Part of Speech: Noun Feminine
Transliteration: yeshuah
Phonetic Spelling: (yesh-oo'-aw)
Short Definition: salvation
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We are talking about different things. I mean to eventually tie them together but it probably would make no difference if I do.
Anyway you may be aware the word "Spirit" as in the SPIRIT OF GOD...is a feminine word.
So will God submit himself to the rules of mens language? Or will he be what he is?
Strongs Dictionary Page 123 under word number 3444 last sentence.
Jesus (a Greek form of yeshu'ah).
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04-18-2016, 07:46 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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So the question remains: How many times are we going to evolve the name of our Savior? How many times are we going to let the evolution of our language dictate to us how we are supposed to pronounce the name of the Son of God?
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I don't believe it is an evolution, but what we see the English Jesus is from the Latin. The Latin form of Jesus, as well as the Greek and the Aramaic were on the Cross. Everyone would of accepted the phonetics, as well as the spellings. Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum was above His head 2,000 years ago.
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04-18-2016, 07:48 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
We are talking about different things. I mean to eventually tie them together but it probably would make no difference if I do.
Anyway you may be aware the word "Spirit" as in the SPIRIT OF GOD...is a feminine word.
So will God submit himself to the rules of mens language? Or will he be what he is?
Strongs Dictionary Page 123 under word number 3444 last sentence.
Jesus (a Greek form of yeshu'ah).
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There you go. Strong scholar.
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04-18-2016, 07:48 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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I don't believe it is an evolution, but what we see the English Jesus is from the Latin. The Latin form of Jesus, as well as the Greek and the Aramaic were on the Cross. Everyone would of accepted the phonetics, as well as the spellings. Iēsus Nazarēnus, Rēx Iūdaeōrum was above His head 2,000 years ago.
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04-18-2016, 07:54 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
We are talking about different things. I mean to eventually tie them together but it probably would make no difference if I do.
Anyway you may be aware the word "Spirit" as in the SPIRIT OF GOD...is a feminine word.
So will God submit himself to the rules of mens language? Or will he be what he is?
Strongs Dictionary Page 123 under word number 3444 last sentence.
Jesus (a Greek form of yeshu'ah).
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Mike, it is feminine noun because it is the WORD salvation. Yehoshua is a name, the name of the Judean Messiah. I understand that people accept that Jesus was called Yeshua, but that doesn't mean Yah is salvation. Yehoshua is the compound word, not Yeshua. Hey, your the Hebraist here so spoon feed, is His name salvation or Yah is Salvation? I have heard this go back and forth over and over again. Jehovah Salvation, Yahweh Salvation, across pulpits, but Yehoshua is the only one that fits the bill. Yeshua means salvation, not Yah is salvation? Right?
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04-18-2016, 07:58 PM
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
Hebrews 4:8
For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.
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Jubilee Bible 2000
For if Jesus {Joshua in Heb.} had given them rest, then he would not afterward have spoken of another day.
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
What I have always noticed about this argument to prefer Yeshua, Yehoshua, Yeshu, over any other name, is that the conclusion is our New Testament isn't an original. But a Hellenized (or ROMANIZED) translation of an original Hebrew set of manuscripts. So, my questions remain unanswered, why was a Judean leader called by an Ancient Greek name? Was Nicodemus his name? Yohanan Marcus? Why did a disciple of Jesus Christ have an Aramaic name, and a Roman name? Phillip the apostle? His name has no Hebrew or Aramaic equivalent? Why? Was his name lost when the Greek New Testament was translated from the Hebrew original?
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Re: Calling on the Name of Jesus (at baptism)
Did Yohanan Marcus write his name in Greek, Latin or Aramaic?
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