Planned Parenthood Plans 40 Days of Prayer (L)

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by Jay

You do realized that you just declared politicians, used car salesmen, IRS agents, and nearly all teenagers non-human lifeforms?

I'm okay with that!

[Jay]

I thought you might. I think that they all exist on various planes on their way to humanity, possibly with most teenagers being the group that will achieve it first (however as many of them will eventually become the listed classes devolution is a strong possibility).

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

That was the era of Law, T2W, and not given to be a pleasant read. Running screaming is the intended reaction, imo. I hope you come back soon.

Amen.

That was the Law. Praise God for the cross!

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by Hoovie

Of course it's disturbing.

It's about as disturbing as is Deut. 21:18-21 and

7:14 You will be blessed more than any other people; none of your men or women will be childless, nor will any of your livestock be without young. 15 The LORD will keep you free from every disease. He will not inflict on you the horrible diseases you knew in Egypt, but he will inflict them on all who hate you. 16 You must destroy all the peoples the LORD your God gives over to you. Do not look on them with pity and do not serve their gods, for that will be a snare to you.

Do you wish to say these verses are not disturbing? Kill other people's babies so your own wives will not be childless?

No, equally disturbing.

[Aquila]

So.... let's look at a few situations....

A woman was brutally raped and became pregnant. She wants an abortion. Psychologists state that being pregnant with her attacker's child is causing her serious psychological and emotional trauma. Who has the authority to make that decision?

(True story here.) Let's say a woman discovers that her unborn child is facing serious abnormalities and will most likely die in the womb. However, should it survive being carried to term and birth, it will only live days. The doctor advises her to consider an abortion. He informs her that if the fetus dies in the womb the "dead matter" poses serious risk of infection that could render her sterile...or even kill her. Should she decide to keep the child in the womb she would need regular monitoring so that they can remove the remains of the child immediately should it die. Who has the authority to decide what to do in this situation?

A woman has 5 kids and her husband has left her. She's barely able to feed the kids and is seriously struggling. Her ex-husband recently "visited" her and one thing led to another and she's now pregnant again. He left her again calling her a "... a stupid %$@&!" She desires an abortion. Who has the final say on the matter?

A drug addicted prostitute with venerial disease gets pregnant. She wants an abortion. Who has the final say in the matter?

A young girl is molested by an uncle at 14 years old and becomes pregnant. She wants a normal life and has severe psychological trauman. She wants an abortion. Her parents have pressed charges against her uncle and support her choice to abort. Who has final say in the matter?

Most pro-life people would say the government. Some would even say the government should deny an abortion in all circumstances. Other Americans of deep religious faith see the tragedy of each situation and view that while abortion is a tragic solution to a tragic situation, it's ultimately the woman's choice. She is making a life or death decision. In the cases above, they might even counsel her to choose life. Many of deep religious faith would also agree that she will stand before God alone to answer for her motives and her choice given her circumstance. They don't believe that unnecessary abortion will never be punished. However, they feel God is left a better judge than they on matters that are so personal and complicated.

[Aquila]

My response:

A woman was brutally raped and became pregnant. She wants an abortion. Psychologists state that being pregnant with her attacker's child is causing her serious psychological and emotional trauma. Who has the authority to make that decision?

A: I'm deeply grieved over your situation. If at all possible, please choose life. Have you considered adoption? I'll talk to my wife, perhaps we could take the child in. However, I accept that this decision is yours to make. Let's pray.

(True story here.) Let's say a woman discovers that her unborn child is facing serious abnormalities and will most likely die in the womb. However, should it survive being carried to term and birth, it will only live days. The doctor advises her to consider an abortion. He informs her that if the fetus dies in the womb the "dead matter" poses serious risk of infection that could render her sterile...or even kill her. Should she decide to keep the child in the womb she would need regular monitoring so that they can remove the remains of the child immediately should it die. Who has the authority to decide what to do in this situation?

A: I'm deeply grieved over your situation. We might want to hold out for a miracle. However, I support you in whatever decision you make. Let's pray.

A woman has 5 kids and her husband has left her. She's barely able to feed the kids and is seriously struggling. Her ex-husband recently "visited" her and one thing led to another and she's now pregnant again. He left her again calling her a "... a stupid %$@&!" She desires an abortion. Who has the final say on the matter?

A: I'm deeply grieved over your situation. If at all possible, please choose life. I don't believe God would approve of abortion in this circumstance. Have you considered adoption? I'll talk to my wife, perhaps we could take the child in. This choice is yours to make. I pray you make the right choice. Let's pray.

A drug addicted prostitute with venerial disease gets pregnant. She wants an abortion. Who has the final say in the matter?

A: I'm deeply grieved over your situation. If at all possible, please choose life. God is not pleased with this situation. Nor do I believe He's pleased with aborting this child. Have you considered adoption? I'll talk to my wife, perhaps we could take the child in. However, this choice is yours to make. Maybe this is God's way to help you consider becoming clean and getting off the streets. Being a mother is a very precious thing in the eyes of God. Perhaps we can take you in. Let's pray.

A young girl is molested by an uncle at 14 years old and becomes pregnant. She wants a normal life and has severe psychological trauman. She wants an abortion. Her parents have pressed charges against her uncle and support her choice to abort. Who has final say in the matter?

A: I'm deeply grieved over your situation. If at all possible, please choose life. Have you considered adoption? I'll talk to my wife, perhaps we could take the child in. However, I accept that the choice is yours to make. Let's pray.

I would nearly always advocate for life. However, in each situation I believe the final decision is best left to the mother. May God have mercy on their souls.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by bbyrd009

Ha, don't worry; those evil guys are needing meds to keep it up already;
not convinced it will solve most of those women's problems, tho...some, maybe.

LOL! Now that's funny.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by jfrog

You're husband is wrong. Even the word thigh in that passage is a euphemism for the womans privates...

No...YOU are wrong.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Jay

You do realized that you just declared politicians, used car salesmen, IRS agents, and nearly all teenagers non-human lifeforms?

You forgot to add thread nazis.

[jfrog]

Originally Posted by AreYouReady?

No...YOU are wrong.

Considering you have not attempted to explain why he thinks that passage is not about abortion the most I can do is affirm that it is and point out a few tidbits about how the language used in the passage shows it is about the womans private parts and womb.