A Wrecked Church! - Page 32

ILG · #**311** 07-16-2012, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Looks like to me there are personal gains if not evil motives.

But if we are to view this from a compassionate aspect (and I am not saying that it should or should not be viewed from that aspect) those personal gains may be incidental and not the main motivation. It may only be about her Daddy's memory and his wishes, in her mind. We don't know her mind. Or it could be she only cares about her salary. Since I don't know any of these people, I don't know. Sometimes, even if you do know people, you still don't know.

I guess I am just saying her decisions may be clouded with grief. I don't know what the right answer is but I am just trying to throw some thoughts out there to consider. it may help in making the decisions that need to be made.

There is a saying "The only thing needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing".

The thing for those involved to determine is if this is that kind of case or not. Only they can answer that for themselves.

Margies3 · #**312** 07-16-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

But if we are to view this from a compassionate aspect (and I am not saying that it should or should not be viewed from that aspect) those personal gains may be incidental and not the main motivation. It may only be about her Daddy's memory and his wishes, in her mind. We don't know her mind. Or it could be she only cares about her salary. Since I don't know any of these people, I don't know. Sometimes, even if you do know people, you still don't know.

I guess I am just saying her decisions may be clouded with grief. I don't know what the right answer is but I am just trying to throw some thoughts out there to consider. it may help in making the decisions that need to be made.

There is a saying "The only thing needed for evil to prevail is for good men to do nothing".

The thing for those involved to determine is if this is that kind of case or not. Only they can answer that for themselves.

I would have considered the underline statement EXCEPT that she gave herself such a huge raise.

ILG · #**313** 07-16-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Margies3

I would have considered the underline statement EXCEPT that she gave herself such a huge raise.

Hmm, yes, I forgot about that. How exactly did she accomplish that? Does not that sort of thing have to pass by the board? Did not someone approve that?

Sister Alvear · #**314** 07-16-2012, 01:21 PM

it is just sad all the way around...

StillStanding · #**315** 07-16-2012, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

it is just sad all the way around...

Yes it is, Sis Alvear, yes it is!

My heart breaks for an 84 year old precious godly lady that is caught up in the middle of all of this turmoil. She is one of the sweetest people that you've ever met, and would never hurt a fly!

After over 50 years of faithfulness to that church and the former pastor, she suddenly has to find a new church to attend. This church was her "home", and she is worried about feeling comfortable attending church anywhere else. Her world has been turned upside down!

Rapture 1 · #**316** 07-16-2012, 01:55 PM

Believe me, it is the personal gains! And that has been going on for a long time. But, I think it is time to walk away from all of this. And that is what I think everyone is planning on doing,at least the ones I've talked with. Life is too short to let you lose your soul and become bitter over something like this.

StillStanding · #**317** 07-16-2012, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ILG

But if we are to view this from a compassionate aspect (and I am not saying that it should or should not be viewed from that aspect) those personal gains may be incidental and not the main motivation. It may only be about her Daddy's memory and his wishes, in her mind. We don't know her mind. ......

I believe in her mind she is safeguarding her father's legacy. Maybe she fears a new pastor coming in who would disregard the history and legacy laid before it. I've seen this happen before! Who knows?

Rapture 1 · #**318** 07-16-2012, 02:02 PM

She wouldn't let any of her family take over. She insists on her "friend"! Her family would have continued the legacy, and had a smooth transition, but she wouldn't have been in control and she knew that.

StillStanding · #**319** 07-16-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rapture 1

Believe me, it is the personal gains! And that has been going on for a long time. But, I think it is time to walk away from all of this. And that is what I think everyone is planning on doing,at least the ones I've talked with. Life is too short to let you lose your soul and become bitter over something like this.

Of course, this is easier said than done! This is like a divorce. Everyone will have to go thru the cycle of shock, hurt and anger before they finally reach acceptance.

ILG · #**320** 07-16-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by StillStanding

I believe in her mind she is safeguarding her father's legacy. Maybe she fears a new pastor coming in who would disregard the history and legacy laid before it. I've seen this happen before! Who knows?

Well, any suit of any kind would look only at facts. How a person can "give themselves a raise" is not understood by me. They would look at by-laws and how the church was set up. If there were no by-laws etc., any kind of teeth of any kind would be hard to find and do anything about.