Flippantly Flaunted Spiritual Liberties

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Horses don't play hockey. List your stadards and scripture to back them. I'll get back to this in the evening.

Price,

We're still waiting. Do you know why you believe what you believe? Or do you put a twist on scripture to fit your "conviction" as so many do, fitting the private interpretation of your religious sect?

[tv1a]

Ouch!!!!

Originally Posted by Berkeley

Price,

We're still waiting. Do you know why you believe what you believe? Or do you put a twist on scripture to fit your "conviction" as so many do, fitting the private interpretation of your religious sect?

[nathan_slatter]

First, I apologize, I didn't go through every single post in this thread so if this is off subject by now, please forgive my intrusion.

You know,

And this may shock rkentsmith for various reasons, but I actually agree with the idea that legalism is rampant in "liberalism". It is an obvious acceptance with the "conservatives" because everyone who stands along side those who have rules and regulations automatically see those things as "legal".

The fact is that legalism is merely following the "legal" to the T and condemning those who don't.

In other words, I'm not UPC so there are many things that I don't abide by when it comes to the standards of the UPC. Now, if I were legalistic about it I could actually force the issue with TV by saying:

There is no indication of "television" in the scripture. The Bible doesn't even say the word "television", or any form of that word, therefore it is okay for me to watch TV.

What I have done is made the bible into a legal document by following the LETTER of the law. That is legalism, when I abide by the letter of something and not the spirit of something. And it is much easier for me to do so because having something spelled out as being wrong is kind of hard to get around. Granted, there are many things that some say is spelled out that others don't believe is spelled out (for instance, short hair on ladies).

The legalism is more apparent when I, who believe that TV is okay, attack and condemn those who don't believe it is okay. At that point I have become judge, jury, and executioner -- so to speak.

Legalism is easy. It gives me a list of things to follow or not to follow. Without legalism, I have to wade through life, through the muck and the mire, and approach every situation with prayer and actual spirituality.

So, I hope that Bro. Smith was sitting down when he read that I agreed with him.

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

First, I apologize, I didn't go through every single post in this thread so if this is off subject by now, please forgive my intrusion.

You know,

And this may shock rkentsmith for various reasons, but I actually agree with the idea that legalism is rampant in "liberalism". It is an obvious acceptance with the "conservatives" because everyone who stands along side those who have rules and regulations automatically see those things as "legal".

The fact is that legalism is merely following the "legal" to the T and condemning those who don't.

In other words, I'm not UPC so there are many things that I don't abide by when it comes to the standards of the UPC. Now, if I were legalistic about it I could actually force the issue with TV by saying:

There is no indication of "television" in the scripture. The Bible doesn't even say the word "television", or any form of that word, therefore it is okay for me to watch TV.

What I have done is made the bible into a legal document by following the LETTER of the law. That is legalism, when I abide by the letter of something and not the spirit of something. And it is much easier for me to do so because having something spelled out as being wrong is kind of hard to get around. Granted, there are many things that some say is spelled out that others don't believe is spelled out (for instance, short hair on ladies).

The legalism is more apparent when I, who believe that TV is okay, attack and condemn those who don't believe it is okay. At that point I have become judge, jury, and executioner -- so to speak.

Legalism is easy. It gives me a list of things to follow or not to follow. Without legalism, I have to wade through life, through the muck and the mire, and approach every situation with prayer and actual spirituality.

So, I hope that Bro. Smith was sitting down when he read that I agreed with him.

Well said.. as usual...and... welcome my friend.

I won't disclose your actual identity as to not expose your well chosen secret name.

[rkentsmith]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

First, I apologize, I didn't go through every single post in this thread so if this is off subject by now, please forgive my intrusion.

You know,

And this may shock rkentsmith for various reasons, but I actually agree with the idea that legalism is rampant in "liberalism". It is an obvious acceptance with the "conservatives" because everyone who stands along side those who have rules and regulations automatically see those things as "legal".

The fact is that legalism is merely following the "legal" to the T and condemning those who don't.

In other words, I'm not UPC so there are many things that I don't abide by when it comes to the standards of the UPC. Now, if I were legalistic about it I could actually force the issue with TV by saying:

There is no indication of "television" in the scripture. The Bible doesn't even say the word "television", or any form of that word, therefore it is okay for me to watch TV.

What I have done is made the bible into a legal document by following the LETTER of the law. That is legalism, when I abide by the letter of something and not the spirit of something. And it is much easier for me to do so because having something spelled out as being wrong is kind of hard to get around. Granted, there are many things that some say is spelled out that others don't believe is spelled out (for instance, short hair on ladies).

The legalism is more apparent when I, who believe that TV is okay, attack and condemn those who don't believe it is okay. At that point I have become judge, jury, and executioner -- so to speak.

Legalism is easy. It gives me a list of things to follow or not to follow. Without legalism, I have to wade through life, through the muck and the mire, and approach every situation with prayer and actual spirituality.

So, I hope that Bro. Smith was sitting down when he read that I agreed with him.

Bro Nathan you are the man and it is good to hear from you. I am so thankful things worked out for your mother...God Bless

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

Well said.. as usual...and... welcome my friend.

It is the higher education I've been getting lately...

Originally Posted by Digging4Truth

I won't disclose your actual identity as to not expose your well chosen secret name.

LOL -- it's our little secret...

[Digging4Truth]

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

It is the higher education I've been getting lately...

Those essay's are paying off.

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by rkentsmith

Bro Nathan you are the man and it is good to hear from you. I am so thankful things worked out for your mother...God Bless

Nah -- I'm not the man, I think I am sometimes but, somehow, someone always pokes a hole in my ego and I realize differently.

Thanks for the welcome and good words. And I, too, am thankful that Mom is doing well.

Originally Posted by nathan_slatter

First, I apologize, I didn't go through every single post in this thread so if this is off subject by now, please forgive my intrusion.

You know,

And this may shock rkentsmith for various reasons, but I actually agree with the idea that legalism is rampant in "liberalism". It is an obvious acceptance with the "conservatives" because everyone who stands along side those who have rules and regulations automatically see those things as "legal".

The fact is that legalism is merely following the "legal" to the T and condemning those who don't.

In other words, I'm not UPC so there are many things that I don't abide by when it comes to the standards of the UPC. Now, if I were legalistic about it I could actually force the issue with TV by saying:

There is no indication of "television" in the scripture. The Bible doesn't even say the word "television", or any form of that word, therefore it is okay for me to watch TV.

What I have done is made the bible into a legal document by following the LETTER of the law. That is legalism, when I abide by the letter of something and not the spirit of something. And it is much easier for me to do so because having something spelled out as being wrong is kind of hard to get around. Granted, there are many things that some say is spelled out that others don't believe is spelled out (for instance, short hair on ladies).

The legalism is more apparent when I, who believe that TV is okay, attack and condemn those who don't believe it is okay. At that point I have become judge, jury, and executioner -- so to speak.

Legalism is easy. It gives me a list of things to follow or not to follow. Without legalism, I have to wade through life, through the muck and the mire, and approach every situation with prayer and actual spirituality.

So, I hope that Bro. Smith was sitting down when he read that I agreed with him.

So who REALLY are you, Mister "Nathan Slatter"? Hmmm????

[nathan_slatter]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

So who REALLY are you, Mister "Nathan Slatter"? Hmmm????

I'm Bob...