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Originally Posted by Steve Epley
Sir a person who has not obeyed the gospel is NOT saved. Could they have had some experience with the Lord?? Yes he does lead people if they are sincere and hungry but NO one saved without obeying the gospel and then continues to walk pleasing to Him.
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Originally Posted by Actaeon
If Bishop Epley is stupid then these other guys are way down on the minus end of stupidity ............ 
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The question was to have a relationship not salvation. You can have a relationship with someone with out knowing all their secrets.
I never said Epley is stupid. He is not. Very smart, but not too bright!

Sorry could not resist.
I will say this I think that is treading on thin ice to say/act like we have it altogether and we know all about all. To say what I quoted Epley is what alot of pentecostal cons say, but the truth is that we can not say that. His ways are higher than ours. To say or act like we know what He is thinking, saying, etc. is a very elementary way to think.