Tithing, Mandate for the New Testament Church? - Page 38

LadyRev · #**371** 08-15-2011, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by HRea

Consider this: tithing with any strings attached (whether to avoid a curse or to obtain a blessing) is wrong; the entire focus of our attitude in tithing is to honor God. Any string attached to the tithe brings the focus back to the giver.

This line of thinking could be applied to alot of things. Including...

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be full.

Because there are "strings" attached and the focus will be brought back to the one doing the praying, should we assume its wrong to pray, wrong to ask?
I don't think so.

I'm glad I serve a God that keeps His word! Even sinners are blessed! Even sinners receive answers! We don't have to be perfect in order for God to honor His word.

mfblume · #**372** 08-15-2011, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by HRea

Consider this: tithing with any strings attached (whether to avoid a curse or to obtain a blessing) is wrong; the entire focus of our attitude in tithing is to honor God. Any string attached to the tithe brings the focus back to the giver.

But it is biblically encouraged to give in order to be blessed.

mfblume · #**373** 08-15-2011, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilgrum

This is not to doubt your experience or blessing in any way but we here this type of testimony all the time in that "I know that tithing has to be right because I tithe and I the Lord blesses me." Just as many testimonies could be spoken by non-tithers in that "God blesses me because of my giving." Therefore this argument is mute. I believe any blessings received are the result of ones' attitude of heart and the depth of sacrifice made. As the bible says, "God loves a cheerful giver."

Can you prove that you're receive blessing because you are giving a certain percentage rather than your just giving cheerfully in general?

I do not consider it as a giving a certain percentage, but simply giving.

mfblume · #**374** 08-15-2011, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by UnTraditional

This is the absolute truth. Look at the attitudes shown here by pro-law keepers versus grace believers. Those who pushed tithing did so with some venom and poison. Too bad some would rather be guilty before God than be led by the Spirit.

I encourage tithing but have not manifested any negative attitude.

Rudy · #**375** 08-15-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HRea

As I've said before, I'm pro-tithing; so, yes, please, examine my posts and my responses. I'm here to participate in a discussion and appreciate the posts from those who want to have a discussion, whether they agree or disagree with my viewpoint on tithing.

However, I think you'll find that there is plenty of "venom and poison" being spewed from those opposed to tithing. It is definitely not one-sided, and it's not ladened with grace.

I'm not sure anyone here posting is against tithing anything. It seems the problem is how it is taught.

Rudy · #**376** 08-15-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by mfblume

But it is biblically encouraged to give in order to be blessed.

Bro. I'm not trying to pick-apart your post here. But God has blessed humanity long before a red penny was ever given. I know you know this but if a new convert was reading that one could be drawn into money =s blessing only. I was born with all my limbs, and a sound mind. Food, shelter and clothing I had and have. The blessings of God shower the just & the unjust.

mfblume · #**377** 08-15-2011, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy

Bro. I'm not trying to pick-apart your post here. But God has blessed humanity long before a red penny was ever given. I know you know this but if a new convert was reading that one could be drawn into money =s blessing only. I was born with all my limbs, and a sound mind. Food, shelter and clothing I had and have. The blessings of God shower the just & the unjust.

The bible says giving promises a blessing - pressed down, shaken up and running over. No one would think I meant only giving awards blessings. Let's allow the Word to speak.

Rudy · #**378** 08-17-2011, 11:17 PM

Here is something a little surprising.

Survey: Majority of evangelical leaders say tithing not required.
http://www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_17784132

Aquila · #**379** 08-18-2011, 08:07 AM

I believe more and more pastors are starting to realize that they can walk by faith and liberate the people to give as God leads, producing MORE than enough. Requirements to tithe can slow growth to a crawl and severely burden congregation members. It also puts the church under the Law. Grace and freedom to be led of God will always prevail and prove to be all sufficient.

UnTraditional · #**380** 08-18-2011, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

I believe more and more pastors are starting to realize that they can walk by faith and liberate the people to give as God leads, producing MORE than enough. Requirements to tithe can slow growth to a crawl and severely burden congregation members. It also puts the church under the Law. Grace and freedom to be led of God will always prevail and prove to be all sufficient.

the requirement to pay tithes has made many believers come to a point of spiritual depression when they cannot pay, and fear of damnation as well. When we express liberality in our lives, including grace led giving, God shines His favor and power on that free will giving.