Bishop SC Johnson - Page 38

sis_perez · #**371** 06-02-2009, 03:44 PM

Barb, actually it doesnt really matter whether I call him Johnson, Bishop Johnson, or BJ, it it actually a Habit calling him Bishop or Bishop Johnson.

warrior · #**372** 06-02-2009, 03:55 PM

I have debate tapes as well, and I promise you that isn't the proper way to do a debate, and my point still remains valid. There was no one there prove or disprove any statements made by either parties.

sis_perez · #**373** 06-02-2009, 03:56 PM

God dealt with Bishop Johnson. Just because B J Came out from Lawsons, what was working in BJ that was against Lawson is what saved him, because what Lawson had was not right. I understand the point you are trying to make, but Johnson could have started out in a Baptist church and with the spirit that was in him, he would have came out of there.

Steve Epley · #**374** 06-02-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by sis_perez

God dealt with Bishop Johnson. Just because B J Came out from Lawsons, what was working in BJ that was against Lawson is what saved him, because what Lawson had was not right. I understand the point you are trying to make, but Johnson could have started out in a Baptist church and with the spirit that was in him, he would have came out of there.

Bishop Johnson could NOT have been born again in the Baptist church they did not teach the new birth message of Acts 2:38. Bishop Johnson as a sinner heard Acts 2:38 and was born again under the influence of Bishop Lawson. That is the facts of the case. He didn't receive it outside of it being preached to him like everyone else.

warrior · #**375** 06-02-2009, 04:03 PM

Folks just don't want to admit that Johnson had to learn from another human being. That is apart of the hype and misinformation pertaining the entire situation.

sis_perez · #**376** 06-02-2009, 04:07 PM

Warrier, I did not say that if Bishop J had have taken leadership that the organization would have been greater. I said if he was one of the leaders in the organization. I mean what happened to Lawsons organization when Johnson became what everyone was talking about? I am not speaking on after his death. I am speaking on while he was alive? Bishop Lawson didnt have a leg to stand on either. But you are right as far as the mess that has taken place after his death. The people cant get to gether because Bishop Spoke by the Spirit. They just cant get what he was saying. And Bishop J taught to Bring bible and they dont want to hear it. You would have thought Jesus Christ himself died and Bishop Johnson is in heaven the way a lot of them act. Amd you will get shot down so to speak if you believe in pastors.

warrior · #**377** 06-02-2009, 04:21 PM

Sis. Perez you are the only one I know with a reasonably healthy understanding of what people should be doing after the death of their pastor. I appreciate your willings to talk about this without idolizing BJ.

sis_perez · #**378** 06-02-2009, 04:25 PM

Well I need to know what exactly did Bishop Johnson learn from Bishop Lawson? Because Bishop Johnson stated that he had to fight Bishop Lawson. And if Bishop Johnson Learned anything from Bishop Lawson, How come Bishop Lawson did not come and get the Reward that Bishop Johnson offered, because BJ stated that didnt no man teach him. He stated that God revealed the thing to him. So that should have been an easy thing for Bishop Lawson to Stop Bishop Johnsons Big mouth on wether he took the reward or not. So again, I say, what could have Lawson have taught Bishop Johnon? The way I see it, sounds like it was revealed to him.

warrior · #**379** 06-02-2009, 04:34 PM

Sis. Perez, as Elder Epley said, BL introduced the Acts 2:38 message to BJ. What else he learned is probably a great deal. Who knows! I am sure somethings were revealed while others were taught, whatever they were.

sis_perez · #**380** 06-02-2009, 04:51 PM

Warrior, I see no reason not to give credit where credit is due. The preachers still talk about Paul and Peter and Noah and most people dont even give God Almighty credit for anything, they Give it all to the Son- which is dead and gone and is no more, of course , they dont understand this concept that there is "no SON of God in heaven now" in which Bishop Johnson is the Author of. So Bishop Johnson brought the Gospel without error, backed up 100% with Bible. So he is due credit. People fall into error saying that God sent them, calling themselves Apostles, and all that, knowing good and well, the Gospel was not reavealed to them Directly from God. But I am glad that through listening to what Johnson has preached, I got enough understanding to hear that the bible that says to continue in what was learned and have been assured of Knowing of WHOM thou has learned them. So just so you know, I am not one of those tape listeners that fail to undestand that God gave some apostles and some prophets .....pastors...teachers....
Just because a Pastor dies, the word continues. It is someones Job to keep the word before the People. That is why God gave the prophets, pastors and teachers... For the perfecting of the saints. So Martha is not alone in her beliefs.