Witchcraft = medication

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by OnenessWoman

I could tell you were being facetious.

Lol yeah and facetious too.

Originally Posted by Rico

Illicit drug use. Define that for me, would you? If smoking a joint is evil and involves spirits, is it then not evil if a pharmaceutical company chemically produces the same pain relieving effects as marijuana? Does the fact that a pharmaceutical company was able to transform it into a pill make it legitimate? How about something like morphine? Isn't morphine a chemically produced version of heroin? Is the heroin evil to use but the morphine ok because it was produced in a lab?

There are so many medications that alter the mind that it isn't funny. I have known and have seen people on different medications that didn't know where they were or make any sense at all. These mind altering drugs is what keeps the world going in the downward spiral, which is so sad.

Originally Posted by Rico

No, Brother. It's simply a matter of stating the truth about the origins of something. It's kind of like when people try so hard to deny the roots of Christmas. They go on and on about how "Christian" it is and absolutely refuse to acknowledge where it came from.

Preach it Brother!!!!

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by tbpew

FERD,
1. First off, this a pretty cool and thoughtfully challenging post.
2. If you have experienced a personal benefit from sustained ingestation of controlled substances (sythethic chemical compounds), I am not against you or your pragmatism in pursuit of options available to you.
3. IN YOUR OPINION, is entering into a chronic medication management regime God's methodology for bringing his REMEDY to his people that call upon his name for healing?

If it is NOT, it is a substitute conceived from the wisdom of men as an alternate approach to a God-supplied healing.

Thanks.

in my opinion sometimes the answer to prayer for healing is "No". Why I dont have a clue. But that doesnt change the sovernty of God.

AND Medicine is there for us to use responsibly. Gods methodology? I honestly dont know what that means. really, I dont. I know Ive seen sick people healed. I know I have seen people full of faith not be healed. I look at one of those every morning in the mirror.

I dont understand how anyone can suggest that God is against medicine. I dont know if that is what you are suggesting or not but I dont get it.

Originally Posted by Ferd

Thanks.

in my opinion sometimes the answer to prayer for healing is "No". Why I dont have a clue. But that doesnt change the sovernty of God.

AND Medicine is there for us to use responsibly. Gods methodology? I honestly dont know what that means. really, I dont. I know Ive seen sick people healed. I know I have seen people full of faith not be healed. I look at one of those every morning in the mirror.

I dont understand how anyone can suggest that God is against medicine. I dont know if that is what you are suggesting or not but I dont get it.

Ferd,

Who suggested God is against medicine? I haven't seen anyone here that suggested it.

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by Oneness Man

Ferd,

Who suggested God is against medicine? I haven't seen anyone here that suggested it.

I'm not Ferd, but in my opinion....when medicine is said to be equal to witchcraft then one would only assume that God would be against medicine since he is against witchcraft... that is just what it appears....imo

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

I'm not Ferd, but in my opinion....when medicine is said to be equal to witchcraft then one would only assume that God would be against medicine since he is against witchcraft... that is just what it appears....imo

Exactly, how can you say medicine is witchcraft then say God's not against it?

[tbpew]

I am not prepared to link God with the pharmaceutical industry or its practitioners.

At best they are different options available for a person to choose.
At worst, they may be in opposition.

The principle of ingesting something that may have therapeutic benefit with regard to managing a natural consequence with these bodies, is a scripturally outlined opportunity. Extending that confidence to pave a road of acceptance concerning the large scale medicating we see in our current societal approach to health care is NOT consistent with " a little wine for the stomach and strong drink for the dieing."

I do not believe that the merry heart does good like a medicine.
The Hebrew word gehaw(?) is REMEDY or CURE. KJV translators may have been OK to use the two words interchangeable [medicine and CURE], but who among us would believe that medicine and CURE are synonymous or interchangeable.

Our world is SUPER SATURATED with synthetic chemical compounds that we put into our blood stream. Every one of these choices will need to be subsequently filtered by our liver or kidneys. If that is all perfectly consistent with God's plan, how about we just drop ALL PHARMA and just drink a little wine when our stomach is upset.

I am confident that our body chemistry is the line of demarcation between body and spirit. It is an aspect of our lives that should be maintained with all vigilance and direction from our Lord.

[LadyChocolate]

Originally Posted by LadyChocolate

I'm not Ferd, but in my opinion....when medicine is said to be equal to witchcraft then one would only assume that God would be against medicine since he is against witchcraft... that is just what it appears....imo

Let me say that I do not believe this. I do not believe that it is a sin to take medicine that helps your body. I opt for a more natural approach myself but to say that taking things like insulin and such is a sin is beyond me...... I also believe that no matter what one does, God does still hold the keys to life and death....!!!!

[clgustaveson]

Originally Posted by tbpew

I am not prepared to link God with the pharmaceutical industry or its practitioners.

At best they are different options available for a person to choose.
At worst, they may be in opposition.

The principle of ingesting something that may have therapeutic benefit with regard to managing a natural consequence with these bodies, is a scripturally outlined opportunity. Extending that confidence to pave a road of acceptance concerning the large scale medicating we see in our current societal approach to health care is NOT consistent with " a little wine for the stomach and strong drink for the dieing."

I do not believe that the merry heart does good like a medicine.
The Hebrew word gehaw(?) is REMEDY or CURE. KJV translators may have been OK to use the two words interchangeable [medicine and CURE], but who among us would believe that medicine and CURE are synonymous or interchangeable.

Our world is SUPER SATURATED with synthetic chemical compounds that we put into our blood stream. Every one of these choices will need to be subsequently filtered by our liver or kidneys. If that is all perfectly consistent with God's plan, how about we just drop ALL PHARMA and just drink a little wine when our stomach is upset.

I am confident that our body chemistry is the line of demarcation between body and spirit. It is an aspect of our lives that should be maintained with all vigilance and direction from our Lord.

I agree with you to an extent, but I think that God is the only answer. There is no parallel answer. You can't find something that doesn't lead back to God except sin.

A cure and medicine are synonymous, the word medicine does not simply mean something you take because your doctor gives it to you, that isn't even close. A medication is remedy to a problem, in a way it is a cure. The definition of cure is a method used for treatment.

I just don't get your argument with the scriptural translation, it's just an argument of semantics and holds no real validity.