Your argument on internet would have some merit, but the Res 4 deals with TV
not internet.
Does only the things mentioned in resolutions have merit? What about the issues in the overall scope of things? Haha. There is more in this world than the resolutions of a UPC general conference.
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"Many Christians do not try to understand what was written in a verse in the Bible. Instead they approach the passage to prove what they already believe."
That's an admirably balanced approach to a complex issue, Ron. But in the context of the Apostolic movement where is the "control" most problematic?
In the Apostolic movement those who seek to "control" also describe themselves as "consrvatives." Personally, to me that's an oxymoron (a "controling" conservative) but that's the way in which the debate has been framed.
Face it, liberals & Conservatives are guilty of it as well.
Does only the things mentioned in resolutions have merit? What about the issues in the overall scope of things? Haha. There is more in this world than the resolutions of a UPC general conference.
Yes Bro, they do have merit, but for the scope of the debate it is about Res 4.
To tell you the truth, both have failings to them. I have time to be on the internet because I am recovering from surgery on my foot & the doc says
1 more week off.
I am bored!
However, people are missing the point with TV-at the very least it is a time waster!
Do you really want all those ads to come into your home?
Ad agencies have execs regularly make 6 figure salary's or more because they
know that ADVERTISING WORKS!
Now, we haven't even touched on the programs yet, but with two strikes against it---why do you still defend it??
It seems as if it is a "Godly Right" we need to justify?
Another "mantra" repeated but never proven. A Time Waster....How many of you have wasted time on AFF? How many kids waste time on the net chatting or playing games? How many men waste time looking at porn? There are valuable things to watch ON TV just as there are on the Net.
First of all if people don't want to look at ads, don't look at them. When you flip a magazine do you read the ads? Radio do you turn it off? Bill boards? Internet websites are full of ads..
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
Why is it that cons disregard facts like this in their elevation of internet as "redeemable", and their condemnation of television as "irredeemable"?
Exactly...they not only ignore them they come up with claims that are assumed to be facts without proven it and we are all expected to just accept that it is true.
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
I agree with you it works-but only it certain mediums.
An idiot box is great for getting things of the world pushed onto people.
This salvation message was meant for a "one on one" or "personal touch"
not a "reach out and touch your wide screen TV'S and yea let the Lord heal
thee of that sickness!"
After spending billions of dollars you'd think someone would get a clue that only certain mediums work and stop spending money on the ones that don't work...Why don't we decide which out reach methods work the best and get rid of the others? Which is better? Door knocking or Internet advertisements?
BTW personal touch? ok, get rid of radio, get rid of magazines, newspapers and interent. Don't leave tracts anywhere or fliers. No more mailouts
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
I suggest that the apostles and disciples used the media that was available to them in that day! They used horse and buggy, they used ships and vessels to travel and exchange parchament letters, they were in the marketplaces and places of business, Paul preached on Mars hill, a central location of heathen worship. They used EVERY IMAGINABLE COMMUNICATION MEDIA AND VENUE AVAILABLE TO THEM.
Of course...who invented tracts anyways? That's not in the bible. No bible study charts either. good grief....these arguments are as lame as the stick guys and gals on bathroom doors proving women should wear dresses only
__________________ Let it be understood that Apostolic Friends Forum is an Apostolic Forum.
Apostolic is defined on AFF as:
There is One God. This one God reveals Himself distinctly as Father, Son and Holy Ghost.
The Son is God himself in a human form or "God manifested in the flesh" (1Tim 3:16)
Every sinner must repent of their sins.
That Jesus name baptism is the only biblical mode of water baptism.
That the Holy Ghost is for today and is received by faith with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues.
The saint will go on to strive to live a holy life, pleasing to God.
__________________ "all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed."
~Declaration of Independence
Name one liberal who said every church has to advertise on television. However the legalists wants to excercise their extra biblical beleifs on the entire organization. Who was behind res#3? Can't blame the libs for that one.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ron
If we are speaking of control-it is a human thing not a "Conservative" one.
Liberals can be "guilty" of exercising "control!"
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