Kurt Carr-Singing at Eastwood Pentecostal in Lake Charles

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

Oh, and you misspelled 'kind of'. It's supposed to be spelled 'really'.

[rgcraig]

I believe the wisdom that's been used is that no one has judge Kurt Carr to hell for being trinitarian.

How can we change people if we shun them?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I believe the wisdom that's been used is that no one has judge Kurt Carr to hell for being trinitarian.

How can we change people if we shun them?

Why would we bother trying to change him if his doctrine is ok?

I'm not talking about being unkind or hateful, but acknowledging a person's lost condition doesn't equate to shunning them.

[jrLA]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

Why would we bother trying to change him if his doctrine is ok?

I'm not talking about being unkind or hateful, but acknowledging a person's lost condition doesn't equate to shunning them.

Well, brother we know his doctirne is not ok if he believes in the trinity! I can assure you that ME and VL doesn't hide their 'oneness', these people are masters of influence. "Wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove..."

I trust their ability to affect him and those around them!

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by jrLA

Well, brother we know his doctirne is not ok if he believes in the trinity! I can assure you that ME and VL doesn't hide their 'oneness', these people are masters of influence. "Wise as a serpent and harmless as a dove..."

I trust their ability to affect him and those around them!

The Ewings are friends of mine.

I have preached there.

I definitely wasn't indicting them in any way, just responding to the post I quoted.

I guarantee that if Brother Ewing gets half a chance, he will be witnessing to KC or anybody else.

I have the highest respect for him.

[Truthseeker]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I believe the wisdom that's been used is that no one has judge Kurt Carr to hell for being trinitarian.

How can we change people if we shun them?

The bible does speak about shunning people.

[SoCaliUPC]

I have skimmed this thread and just want to make some general comments:

I just don't throw names out of people that I know, but I am a close friend of Vonnie. Thad is too. Aaron, Vonnie, Thad and I have had some great times at different music conferences across this nation. One of the things that we have always talked about is Kurt. If you have been a member of this forum (and the latters) for a while, you will know that my choir sang in concert with them (KC and Singers) which Thad played for as well. We all spent 3 days with him. He is a quiet man...reserved and shy almost. He does not care what kind of crowd he draws...he gives his all.

Kurt is not the only one to see a difference in Vonnie....so does his singers. They have discussions about her (and I stress HER) standards and she is firm and unwaivering. If she was going to change...she would have done it loooong time ago. But, to her, it is a personal issue....of which she has strong convictions about. She does not present it as "my church believes this..." but that "this is what I believe for me." It was her arrival to the group that made Kurt change his dress code for the female singers in his group....no more pants...they had to wear dresses. His female singers are also the most modest of any of the other singers out there. The other thing...Kurt has sat with Vonnie and they have discussed this doctrine (Oneness) that we hold and know to be true.

God uses the right people to reach a certain group. Vonnie is down to earth. I have seen wrong be done to her, and she will not speak negatively about them. She has taught me a thing or two on how to treat those that come against you. But that also speaks to her upbringing.....Murrell and Joan Ewing are some of the finest people walking this earth. I have great respect for them.

I was invited, by Vonnie, to be in Lake Charles today and this weekend (instead, I am going to NorCal next week to be with them and Thad). She told me a little over a month ago that Kurt would be an invited guest to their Christmas Concert and that she was excited about it. Since being with Kurt, he has been in 3 UPC churches and have left those churches talkiing about "they have it." I hope that he feels the Lord like never before in the service and that he and others who come to the concert are changed for the better.

Next Saturday night, Aaron, Vonnie, Thad and I will be sitting in a restaurant and talking about what we are all doing. I am certain this topic will come up. I hope what has been said will be the result.

And yes Sandra....it is a new day.

[Sandra]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

I have skimmed this thread and just want to make some general comments:

I just don't throw names out of people that I know, but I am a close friend of Vonnie. Thad is too. Aaron, Vonnie, Thad and I have had some great times at different music conferences across this nation. One of the things that we have always talked about is Kurt. If you have been a member of this forum (and the latters) for a while, you will know that my choir sang in concert with them (KC and Singers) which Thad played for as well. We all spent 3 days with him. He is a quiet man...reserved and shy almost. He does not care what kind of crowd he draws...he gives his all.

Kurt is not the only one to see a difference in Vonnie....so does his singers. They have discussions about her (and I stress HER) standards and she is firm and unwaivering. If she was going to change...she would have done it loooong time ago. But, to her, it is a personal issue....of which she has strong convictions about. She does not present it as "my church believes this..." but that "this is what I believe for me." It was her arrival to the group that made Kurt change his dress code for the female singers in his group....no more pants...they had to wear dresses. His female singers are also the most modest of any of the other singers out there. The other thing...Kurt has sat with Vonnie and they have discussed this doctrine (Oneness) that we hold and know to be true.

God uses the right people to reach a certain group. Vonnie is down to earth. I have seen wrong be done to her, and she will not speak negatively about them. She has taught me a thing or two on how to treat those that come against you. But that also speaks to her upbringing.....Murrell and Joan Ewing are some of the finest people walking this earth. I have great respect for them.

I was invited, by Vonnie, to be in Lake Charles today and this weekend (instead, I am going to NorCal next week to be with them and Thad). She told me a little over a month ago that Kurt would be an invited guest to their Christmas Concert and that she was excited about it. Since being with Kurt, he has been in 3 UPC churches and have left those churches talkiing about "they have it." I hope that he feels the Lord like never before in the service and that he and others who come to the concert are changed for the better.

Next Saturday night, Aaron, Vonnie, Thad and I will be sitting in a restaurant and talking about what we are all doing. I am certain this topic will come up. I hope what has been said will be the result.

And yes Sandra....it is a new day.

When did this happen, I have seen them recently in pants. Just curious

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Sandra

When did this happen, I have seen them recently in pants. Just curious

Long time ago...unless things have changed.

[StillStanding]

If I was in the area, I would go to hear Kurt Carr perform!