The loss of a General Board Member

[freeatlast]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Does anyone else see the irony of this post???

I was trying to keep a good christian spirit about me and keep my mouth shut.

[NLYP]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Does anyone else see the irony of this post???

Oh OH Pick Me Pick Me!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Ferd

Does anyone else see the irony of this post???

Absolutely.

[Ron]

Bro Johnny King was the DS of the Alberta District & I am not surprised he did this.
He is an ultra-con.

I picked him up at the airport for Elder Reynolds funeral 6 years ago.
A nice guy but an Ultra-con to the core.

I wish him well.

[NLYP]

Done!

[deltaguitar]

I don't understand why you guys want these ultracons out so bad. Without their strong hand in the organization you guys will be the new ultracons and will find yourselves fighting to keep the traditions you have grown to love so well.

The UPC can't keep the liberals and it can't keep the ultracons so it is destined to be an org full of mediocre moderates unless it starts to allow the liberals back. The only way this will happen is to finally allow the PCI view to be preached.

Once this happens you can be sure that those that are "weak on your message" will come to power and those who are now moderates will be the new UCs.

The UPC is either going to have change or become completely irrelevant and just throwing the ultracons out is not going to bring the change that you guys are expecting.

[SDG]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't understand why you guys want these ultracons out so bad. Without their strong hand in the organization you guys will be the new ultracons and will find yourselves fighting to keep the traditions you have grown to love so well.

The UPC can't keep the liberals and it can't keep the ultracons so it is destined to be an org full of mediocre moderates unless it starts to allow the liberals back. The only way this will happen is to finally allow the PCI view to be preached.

Once this happens you can be sure that those that are "weak on your message" will come to power and those who are now moderates will be the new UCs.

The UPC is either going to have change or become completely irrelevant and just throwing the ultracons out is not going to bring the change that you guys are expecting.

That's classic.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

I don't understand why you guys want these ultracons out so bad. Without their strong hand in the organization you guys will be the new ultracons and will find yourselves fighting to keep the traditions you have grown to love so well.

The UPC can't keep the liberals and it can't keep the ultracons so it is destined to be an org full of mediocre moderates unless it starts to allow the liberals back. The only way this will happen is to finally allow the PCI view to be preached.

Once this happens you can be sure that those that are "weak on your message" will come to power and those who are now moderates will be the new UCs.

The UPC is either going to have change or become completely irrelevant and just throwing the ultracons out is not going to bring the change that you guys are expecting.

hmmm.
AM, DB etc may be moderates but I dare say no one would consider them mediocre, nor weak on message.

[deltaguitar]

Originally Posted by Ferd

hmmm.
AM, DB etc may be moderates but I dare say no one would consider them mediocre, nor weak on message.

They might possibly be the men who end up holding the UPC back. They are both very much "water and spirit" doctrinally and command tons of respect throughout the organization but they are very outspoken against the PCI point of view.

Once AM starts preaching the baptism regeneration message on TV you can expect the attacks to start coming from the Biblical scholars of the world and the "message" will have to be watered down.

I am by no means an UC but I can promise you that they see the writing on the wall. They see that with TV their message will be watered down. The UPC will change and it will be exactly as they predicted. They are only wrong in that they think this is a bad thing.

It will be the best thing that has ever happened to the UPC.

[TRFrance]

Originally Posted by deltaguitar

They might possibly be the men who end up holding the UPC back. They are both very much "water and spirit" doctrinally and command tons of respect throughout the organization but they are very outspoken against the PCI point of view.

Once AM starts preaching the baptism regeneration message on TV you can expect the attacks to start coming from the Biblical scholars of the world and the "message" will have to be watered down.

I am by no means an UC but I can promise you that they see the writing on the wall. They see that with TV their message will be watered down. The UPC will change and it will be exactly as they predicted. They are only wrong in that they think this is a bad thing.

It will be the best thing that has ever happened to the UPC .

*sigh*
Wishful thinking, if I've ever seen it.