You've been in that church for 18 months and you've never gone to talk to the pastor? Maybe instead of leaving the church you should go up to your pastor and introduce yourself. "Hi, Pastor, I'm Sister so-and-so." Who do you think you are to believe that it's up to the pastor (the one whom GOD has placed over you) to come to YOU and talk to YOU? Why haven't you humbled yourself and gone to your pastor?
By the way, I'm saying this as someone who absolutely hates initiating a conversation. Sometimes you just have to do it!
Chance, I think your post count is too high to be saying this.... hehehe
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I don't think this is bad advice. I would add this; submit, or remove.
It really is that simple.
HO can't say that she truly knows that pastor's vision or reasoning, as she's stated that she's never talked with him....
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"Rules without relationship lead to rebellion." Dr. James Dobson
"You don't need a license to preach, or teach, or win souls." RonB
"In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)
Never tell a young person that anything cannot be done. God may have been waiting centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing. ~ John Andrew Holmes
I am accustomed to pastors who, after someone has been attending their church for a while, request a meeting...like to get to know them or ask how they can assist if needed or whatever. It's just the experiences I've had with pastors, that's all.
Me, me, me, me, me. It's all about me.
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One pastor I had requested a meeting to find out more about me and how I liked church and things like that. Another pastor I had requested a meeting with my husband and I and also had a word from God for us as well. He saw things in me that he wanted to help me with.
As for talking with him....well...I'm just not sure how to approach the situation.
You walk up to him, hold out your hand and say, "Hi, pastor, I'm Sister so-and-so. I just wanted to introduce myself."
Oh, yes, if things aren't being done the way we were raised, they're wrong!
I'm not sure whether such comparison is a good thing or a bad thing but if some other church is doing something that works, what's wrong with the pastor getting permission from the Holy Ghost to do it in his church?
That's because you're stuck in tradition, in routine.
Well, excuse us for distracting you! Maybe by feeding these children (who might not otherwise get breakfast), your pastor is doing a good work that may serve as a testimony to the community that "this is a church that really cares."
Why is this a problem? What did Jesus say to the disciples when they objected to all those children being brought to him?
So, why do you have a problem with this?
Why were some of the adults clapping? Shouldn't THEY have known this was "very serious and not something to be clapped for"? I don't know exactly what you mean when you say he admonished them for clapping but I suspect that what he did wasn't as out of proportion as you make it seem.
Yes, and what about all the children who were present when Jesus preached the sermon on the mount? How long were they sitting there? I don't doubt that someone should be keeping track of the children and not let them wander all over the place. Well, well, it looks like you just might have something to talk to your pastor about instead of sitting there on your blessed assurance waiting for him to come to you as if you are soooooo far superior to him.
So, instead of leaving the church, DO SOMETHING! Go talk to your pastor. Talk to the elders. It's amazing how well actually talking to people works. Jesus commanded us that if we have something against someone, we're to GO TO THAT PERSON and talk to him about it.
Go Chance! You had some good points there....
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"Rules without relationship lead to rebellion." Dr. James Dobson
"You don't need a license to preach, or teach, or win souls." RonB
"In all my perplexities and distresses, the Bible has never failed to give me light and strength." Robert E. Lee (1807-1870)
Never tell a young person that anything cannot be done. God may have been waiting centuries for someone ignorant enough of the impossible to do that very thing. ~ John Andrew Holmes
Some pastors take on too much responsibility around the church. This pastor sounds.
Change is good, but too much change over a short period of time gives the impression of uncertainty...that the pastor really doesn't have a direction he is sure of going. Imagine being on a ship and the captain saying he is not sure they are headed in the right direction
Yes, you have the right idea. He wants to control everything going on and constantly introducing new ideas and rules. He isn't able to let go and allow his leadership to do their job without his interference or making them feel that what they are doing isn't good enough.
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You really don't even have a reason to complain until you have first talked to him and he's given you the reason(s) for why he's doing these things.... you assume that a pastor is going to initiate coming to you to talk; why would you even think that??? It's not like any pastor i've known is capable of reading a person's mind to know that I want to talk to them; why should you expect that from him??? i don't think thats very fair to expect, do you???
imo, most pastors probably wouldn't initiate a "meeting" with a saint of 18 months unless they observed a problem/concern or wanted them to grow in the ministry, etc.... they would assume that everything is going alright, both from the ministry perspective and from the saint perspective.... you are doing him an injustice by even pondering the thought of leaving without first even talking to him about it....
i'll wait for your response before sharing my other observations....
Malvaro, I can understand why you say the things you do, but understand that my experiences have been different, and thus the reason why I see things this way.
Again, realize there is much more going on than I have said here, but I'm not turning this into a preacher bashing thread nor do I want people to feel worse about me than they already do.
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IF the guy said he wasn't preaching standards any longer they should leave period. IF he didn't say that they should either get their hearing checked or stop lying.
Read my posts again. I never said such.
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