Mark, are you saying this is MANDATORY for all members of the church?
or is this some ministry/service being offered?
this is a very important question.
I don't know for certain but I do remember hearing
that it was mandatory for all membership. they had to
sign some kind of agreement ???? Don't hold me to this
but that was my understanding.
I recall a few years ago that the members were given 6 weeks
to sign up and get a specific filter for their internet
I don't know for certain but I do remember hearing
that it was mandatory for all membership. they had to
sign some kind of agreement ???? Don't hold me to this
but that was my understanding.
I recall a few years ago that the members were given 6 weeks
to sign up and get a specific filter for their internet
I think I would have just started another church across the street and told all the members that if they thought dude was too controling to come to the new church.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
It's a good thing that God put an electric fence around the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden... oh wait -- He didn't
And to think, He wants us to go out into the world. And tell people about Him and His saving grace.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
If there's nothing to hide then why would anyone have
a problem with it ??
For the same reason I wouldn't be on staff at a church that required me to keep surveillance cameras in my home, in order to supervise my activities.
Like I said, VOLUNTARY accountability is a very good thing...but mandatory? The pastor is being over-zealous at best. There may be some circumstances that are prompting him to take this action, but in the end, it won't bring about the results he's after anyway.
Mandatory morality is just tossing away the NT in exchange for the Old. If a person doesn't pursue purity and morality from a point of his own love for and consecration to God, then it's a moot point. Remember the scripture about a man looking on a woman...with lust...has already committed adultery? You can make all kinds of rules, but if the heart isn't right, the rules accomplish nothing.
To be blunt, a man who can't look at porn because his pastor is looking over his shoulder can still THINK about porn if the heart problem isn't fixed.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
well, where I would differ is, I think it should be
voluntary.
what if a person was having problems with some kind
of moral issues and maybe it created marital problems-
don't you think something like this could be beneficial ?
I was going to say the same thing! But I didn't want people to think I was like that Baron guy!
I nick named him Bubba.......
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
For the same reason I wouldn't be on staff at a church that required me to keep surveillance cameras in my home, in order to supervise my activities.
Like I said, VOLUNTARY accountability is a very good thing...but mandatory? The pastor is being over-zealous at best. There may be some circumstances that are prompting him to take this action, but in the end, it won't bring about the results he's after anyway.
Mandatory morality is just tossing away the NT in exchange for the Old. If a person doesn't pursue purity and morality from a point of his own love for and consecration to God, then it's a moot point. Remember the scripture about a man looking on a woman...with lust...has already committed adultery? You can make all kinds of rules, but if the heart isn't right, the rules accomplish nothing.
To be blunt, a man who can't look at porn because his pastor is looking over his shoulder can still THINK about porn if the heart problem isn't fixed.
what she said.... Mrs Bratified is often the voice of reason.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
well, where I would differ is, I think it should be
voluntary.
what if a person was having problems with some kind
of moral issues and maybe it created marital problems-
don't you think something like this could be beneficial ?
Forced accountiblilty is not very effective....look at our judicial and penal systems. Recitivism is rampant. If someone is offered help from a loving standpoint and not a judgemental standpoint, ones chances of recovery from whatever problem is greater. "Perfect love casts out all fear"
I've had more success with helping people by revealing my hurts, pain, addictions, screw ups, etc., than by pointing out their sins.
Just food for thought......
Before I get the splinter out of your eye, I must get the telephone pole outa mine!!!!
I got that...
That is actually what my daughter has always called her brother (He is going into high school, she into middle school)
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Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
"You will be hated for my sake-Just remember that it should be for MY sake and not YOURS-
Do NOT act in such a way as to be offensive, and then blame it on me"
I nick named him Bubba.......
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