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Old 07-16-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: Baptism, DOES IT REALLY WASH AWAY SIN??

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Luke 24:47 (Amplified Bible)
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And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
Hey Amplified Bible is the correct one, or should I say, whoever you look to that agrees with you is?

What happened to truth?
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:30 AM
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Luke 24:47 (Amplified Bible)
Amplified Bible (AMP)
Copyright © 1954, 1958, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1987 by The Lockman Foundation

And that repentance [with a view to and as the condition of] forgiveness of sins should be preached in His name to all nations, beginning from Jerusalem.
You would have been more convincing if you used the NASV to try to prove repentance is for the remission of sins.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:15 AM
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Luk 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem

Notice it says Repentance & Remission? Why say Repentance & Repentance?
Remission happens in his name.

Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.

If remission of sins is preached in his name, happens in his name, when does his name get appied to our life-in baptism!
Baptism & Washing away sins, Hmmmm?

Your arguments rest entirely on the way you have interpreted a translation.

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And now why do you wait?(A) Rise and be baptized and(B) wash away your sins,(C) calling on his name.'

(NLT)
What are you waiting for? Get up and be baptized. Have your sins washed away by calling on the name of the Lord.’

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And now, why do you delay? Rise and be baptized, and by calling upon His name, wash away your sins.
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Old 07-16-2008, 10:25 AM
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Your arguments rest entirely on the way you have interpreted a translation.

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And now why do you wait?(A) Rise and be baptized and(B) wash away your sins,(C) calling on his name.'

(NLT)
What are you waiting for? Get up and be baptized. Have your sins washed away by calling on the name of the Lord.’

Amplified
And now, why do you delay? Rise and be baptized, and by calling upon His name, wash away your sins.
I'm not sure what you're trying not to prove but all of these translations link baptism and calling on the name of the Lord to a washing away of sins. Something that one steppers tell us happens at repentance.
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Your arguments rest entirely on the way you have interpreted a translation.

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And now why do you wait?(A) Rise and be baptized and(B) wash away your sins,(C) calling on his name.'

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What are you waiting for? Get up and be baptized. Have your sins washed away by calling on the name of the Lord.’

Amplified
And now, why do you delay? Rise and be baptized, and by calling upon His name, wash away your sins.
The same thing can be said of your argument.
However when you consider that baptism was a command, & practiced by the Apostles, your bag of arguments starts to get wet!
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I would just like to say that I am FOR BAPTISM
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I would just like to say that I am FOR BAPTISM
Too simple Ferd!
You need to get the "New Improved Version" that says it is extra & an add on to our Salvation.
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The same thing can be said of your argument.
However when you consider that baptism was a command, & practiced by the Apostles, your bag of arguments starts to get wet!
It absolutely does not. Baptism is about obedience. Interpreting Scripture based on what it says rather than on what I want it to say is at least being honest with the text.

The facts are in my favor regardless of how strongly you believe your error.

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I would just like to say that I am FOR BAPTISM
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It absolutely does not. Baptism is about obedience. Interpreting Scripture based on what it says rather than on what I want it to say is at least being honest with the text.

The facts are in my favor regardless of how strongly you believe your error.



Me to.
I appreciate the fact that you are for baptism too.
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It absolutely does not. Baptism is about obedience. Interpreting Scripture based on what it says rather than on what I want it to say is at least being honest with the text.

The facts are in my favor regardless of how strongly you believe your error.



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1Pe 3:21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:

Notice, Baptism is part and parcel of that which saves us Dan!
OOPPS, Sorry Freudian slip perhaps.
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