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Old 07-23-2008, 11:42 PM
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Joel believes toooooooooooooooooooooo much like the Sowderites not to have been influenced by them he is two gods regardless of what he says.
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Old 07-23-2008, 11:45 PM
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Joel believes toooooooooooooooooooooo much like the Sowderites not to have been influenced by them he is two gods regardless of what he says.
Elder, I don't believe but rather quite the contrary... if he is teaching that Jesus was a man and not God... his reasoning is that if Jesus was a God now you have two God... which he vehemently denies..... all in the argument for only ONE GOD
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Dr. Hemphill believes that Jesus was saying exactly what Revelations says.. that he was indeed "The beginning of the creation of God as stated in Revelations... and he was the LAST ADAM.... all humans are either recognized in the first Adam or the last Adam,, so says Bro. Hemphill......
The problem is is that if "I am the first and I am the last" means the beginning of the creation of God then what does it mean when Jehovah says it?
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The problem is is that if "I am the first and I am the last" means the beginning of the creation of God then what does it mean when Jehovah says it?
I wouldnt know since its not my doctrine
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I understand that. Im just speaking to what he says or would say
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:01 AM
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Dr. Hemphill believes that Jesus was saying exactly what Revelations says.. that he was indeed "The beginning of the creation of God as stated in Revelations... and he was the LAST ADAM.... all humans are either recognized in the first Adam or the last Adam,, so says Bro. Hemphill......
okay, (he's wrong) but what about THE ALMIGHTY. Almighty what??? Pretty obvious to me. There is no Almighty beside God Himself.

What about "He was in the world, and the world was made by Him..."

I really cannot even comprehend how anyone could deny the diety of Jesus.

Sounds like your friend has gone arian (jw theology) to me.
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Old 07-24-2008, 12:07 AM
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okay, (he's wrong) but what about THE ALMIGHTY. Almighty what??? Pretty obvious to me. There is no Almighty beside God Himself.

What about "He was in the world, and the world was made by Him..."

I really cannot even comprehend how anyone could deny the diety of Jesus.

Sounds like your friend has gone arian (jw theology) to me.
He uses over 1,000 scriptures that say pretty plainly that Jesus is not God.... so he has definitly put his homework in.. I will give him that much
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He uses over 1,000 scriptures that say pretty plainly that Jesus is not God.... so he has definitly put his homework in.. I will give him that much
Excuse me there is NOT ONE scripture that teaches Jesus is not God. He is decieved I am glad his dear Father is dead losing Daniel to the Branhamites was bad enough. I guarantee you Joel has been associating with the Sowderites in Nashville they have a large assembly there.
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Excuse me there is NOT ONE scripture that teaches Jesus is not God. He is decieved I am glad his dear Father is dead losing Daniel to the Branhamites was bad enough. I guarantee you Joel has been associating with the Sowderites in Nashville they have a large assembly there.
Of course I cannot respond to that.. as I would have no idea... its speculation on both of our parts
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Excuse me there is NOT ONE scripture that teaches Jesus is not God. He is decieved I am glad his dear Father is dead losing Daniel to the Branhamites was bad enough. I guarantee you Joel has been associating with the Sowderites in Nashville they have a large assembly there.
Poor Ole Bro. Daniel, after giving is life to the gospel is probably in hell because he was "lost to the Branhamites"
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