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Old 08-20-2008, 04:52 PM
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Yes, I'm a nurse. Yes, I make a good income. Yes, my husband is an airplane mechanic. Yes, he makes a good income. Over a third of our income goes to the government, while we struggle with a strict budget and have to keep our grocery bill to under $300 a month so we can afford to drive to our jobs. Meanwhile, people with no jobs whatsoever reap the benefits of my tax dollars buying birthday cakes with food stamps while we have to tell our children that momma will make them whatever they like. No, I am not for government handouts. I want all of them gone. Every single one. I want every dime I've ever paid to Social Security given back to me so that I can invest in my own retirement.

I once worked with a girl who had a job and received welfare checks from two states.
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Old 08-20-2008, 04:58 PM
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Yes, I'm a nurse. Yes, I make a good income. Yes, my husband is an airplane mechanic. Yes, he makes a good income. Over a third of our income goes to the government, while we struggle with a strict budget and have to keep our grocery bill to under $300 a month so we can afford to drive to our jobs. Meanwhile, people with no jobs whatsoever reap the benefits of my tax dollars buying birthday cakes with food stamps while we have to tell our children that momma will make them whatever they like. No, I am not for government handouts. I want all of them gone. Every single one. I want every dime I've ever paid to Social Security given back to me so that I can invest in my own retirement.

I once worked with a girl who had a job and received welfare checks from two states.

Hey Baron I think we found my Running mate!

I like this lady!
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:02 PM
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Hey Baron I think we found my Running mate!

I like this lady!
Indeed. She speaks like someone who works for what she gets rather than expecting someone to hand it to her at the expense of someone else.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:30 PM
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Indeed. She speaks like someone who works for what she gets rather than expecting someone to hand it to her at the expense of someone else.
is this where I make a crass comment about those who live off the wealth of others? ie welfare recipients and bureaucrats
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is this where I make a crass comment about those who live off the wealth of others? ie welfare recipients and bureaucrats
This is where you accept the nomination and begin planning your new sleeker model of government with less bureaucrats and no welfare recipients.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:49 PM
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Yes, I'm a nurse. Yes, I make a good income. Yes, my husband is an airplane mechanic. Yes, he makes a good income. Over a third of our income goes to the government, while we struggle with a strict budget and have to keep our grocery bill to under $300 a month so we can afford to drive to our jobs. Meanwhile, people with no jobs whatsoever reap the benefits of my tax dollars buying birthday cakes with food stamps while we have to tell our children that momma will make them whatever they like. No, I am not for government handouts. I want all of them gone. Every single one. I want every dime I've ever paid to Social Security given back to me so that I can invest in my own retirement.

I once worked with a girl who had a job and received welfare checks from two states.
Ok. I am not picking on you with my post, but I am using your post as a jumping off point. You say you are a nurse and your husband is an airline mechanic. By your own admission, you say you make a good income. That's great. What I don't understand is this: By comparison, my income and my wife's income combined has always been less than $30,000 a year, except for a couple of years that I did really well selling insurance. Out of what we make, we house and feed ourselves and four children. I read posts like yours and wonder how on earth you would struggle with having the money to drive to your jobs and buying your children a birthday cake. We don't have a lot, but my kids don't go hungry (we aren't on food stamps either), and our bills are paid. Again, I am not picking on you. I am just using your post to illustrate some things that don't make sense to me. If we were making the kind of money you folks are making, we could live like kings.
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Old 08-20-2008, 05:42 PM
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First thing off the bat. every one that works for government has to spend 2 months per year as the guy riding the back of the trash truck.
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First thing off the bat. every one that works for government has to spend 2 months per year as the guy riding the back of the trash truck.
Hold up Ferd, those trash collectors are independent companies and they don't want no deadbeat government workers on their routes. Sheeesh you haven't been president an hour and you are already trying to kill capitalism.
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Old 08-20-2008, 06:17 PM
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Rico, we have three children. All of whom were born pre-term. We have expenses that normal children would not have incurred. In addition, we have the normal expenses: school uniforms, insurance, child care (for three, mind you), groceries for five, gasoline for 2 commuters which is now over $100 a week. Yes, we made bad choices along the way that made things worse. I am not in favor of the government stepping in to fix any of the errors we've made along the way. It will take us two more years to become debt-free. Then, yes, we will have a better "standard of living" where the budget isn't so tight. Two years after that, we should be building/buying a house. (And birthday cake is an exaggeration on my part. We really can't afford the latest video game system and 6 new games every Christmas. However, if the government bought all my groceries, including those birthday cakes, we certainly could afford those types of things.)
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Old 08-20-2008, 08:57 PM
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Rico, we have three children. All of whom were born pre-term. We have expenses that normal children would not have incurred. In addition, we have the normal expenses: school uniforms, insurance, child care (for three, mind you), groceries for five, gasoline for 2 commuters which is now over $100 a week. Yes, we made bad choices along the way that made things worse. I am not in favor of the government stepping in to fix any of the errors we've made along the way. It will take us two more years to become debt-free. Then, yes, we will have a better "standard of living" where the budget isn't so tight. Two years after that, we should be building/buying a house. (And birthday cake is an exaggeration on my part. We really can't afford the latest video game system and 6 new games every Christmas. However, if the government bought all my groceries, including those birthday cakes, we certainly could afford those types of things.)
No doubt the child care is taking a huge chunk of what's coming in every week. I remember reading somewhere that by the time you deduct for the extra child care expenses, the commuting costs, and the wardrobe costs, many two income families barely break even on what the second income brings into the home. Even so, both of you working will pay off come retirement time, since you both will have SS, plus any retirement plan you put together on your own. Also, I hear you on those video games!! Good grief! Them things are high! I get my son a new game every now and then, but it's always from Game Stop because they sell games used. Some of them can be bought for only $10 too. We could probably qualify for food stamps, but we were alread on them for around three years, and I told my wife I am sick of having to spill my guts to some caseworker to get a few hundred dollars of food stamps. We eat a lot better quality food off of them anyhow, because we are very careful about what we buy now.
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