May I smoke here??!

[aak1972]

Originally Posted by Amos

Did I say nicotine was the only thing the body rejects?

No not at all. But my point is other things are not looked upon like smoking is. I believe its a sin for the addictive and the health issues. I just wonder why other things that have the same addictive and unhealthy nature are not so harshley looked upon.

[jtork]

Originally Posted by Cindy

How am I too defensive? And we have some posters here that aren't apostolic, or drank, smoked, and overate before they were. And nope I don't, I was a stupid teenager that thought smoking was cool. Now that I am in my 50's I am living with the effects of that stupidity.

Well - if they drank overate, etc before they were then I hope they are doing something about it now. There are things you can do to help you live a better life with COPD - plenty of Vitamin C helps; Omega 3 supplements, magnesium; flaxsee and walnuts; kidney beans, soybeans; eat salmon, haibut or tuna at least 3 times a week. Studies have been done that proves this is just a few of the things you can do if you suffer from COPD to help you live a better life.

[jtork]

Originally Posted by Truthseeker

I think there's some deliverence ministers that would testify there's a spirit behind caffeine addiction.

There is a spirit behind any type of addiction.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by jtork

Well - if they drank overate, etc before they were then I hope they are doing something about it now. There are things you can do to help you live a better life with COPD - plenty of Vitamin C helps; Omega 3 supplements, magnesium; flaxsee and walnuts; kidney beans, soybeans; eat salmon, haibut or tuna at least 3 times a week. Studies have been done that proves this is just a few of the things you can do if you suffer from COPD to help you live a better life.

Yes, thank you I know of a few. I love tuna.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by jtork

There is a spirit behind any type of addiction.

Even little white powdered dounuts????????

[Neck]

Originally Posted by Amos

Smoking is a sin because it can not be done with agreement with everything else we
understand in the scripture, that is, it can not be done in faith.

Since it is an outside chemical, being burned, to be inhaled, to
accelerate its entry into our blood stream, we are adding an agent into
our bodies to alter the chemical contents within our blood. It is our own
will being asserted to create a pleasure response (through ingesting a
chemically active agent) that contradicts sustainable wellness of the
body. For a spirit-filled believer, the body is the tabernacle of God,
holy, and set apart. Motive is the issue that causes this activity to invite
sin to "sit outside the door", if not actually, inviting sin to have its
place within our life choices.

Viewed from a perspective within the natural realm:

1st witness:
The witness of our body's initial response
Our lungs reject the presence of this agent until we do it for so long
that our body's own rejection system ceases to react.

2nd witness:
The pain of withdrawal when one ceases smoking.
When the chemical levels drop, the pain and anxiousness is a plain
demonstration of "cause and effect". Paul said, “I will not be brought under the power of any.”

3rd witness:
The operation embraces a total physiological experience; hands, mouth and
chemistry. Two very powerful physical activities that quickly become
habitual, in the process of ingesting an addictive chemical. Crude example
for those of us with kids....just think about how hard it is to break a
child's nose picking habit once fully explored and enjoyed!)

Smoking is certainly in the mix of things that every individual will
decide for themselves. But for anyone who seeks the scriptures (led by the
Spirit) for wonderful counsels, smoking would be understood as a work of
the flesh; authored in the realm of carnal-mindedness.

Certainly over-eating can also become an issue conflicting with the Biblical principle of moderation, but food is necessary for survival; tobacco is not. Thus, the comparison falls short.

As has already been said, one vice doesn’t justify another. Pointing out that “Well, you guys overeat” doesn’t make this vile habit acceptable for Holy Ghost filled people.

I don't smoke but to follow this you would have to eat only organic food amd drink no soda, coffee or tea.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by aak1972

No not at all. But my point is other things are not looked upon like smoking is. I believe its a sin for the addictive and the health issues. I just wonder why other things that have the same addictive and unhealthy nature are not so harshley looked upon.

I know, right. Obesity is in our faces too, so to speak.

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by meBNme

Even little white powdered dounuts????????

Oh no, only the chocolate ones.

[meBNme]

Originally Posted by Cindy

Oh no, only the chocolate ones.

Phew!!!!!!! I was thinkin we might have to have an exorsism here or something!

[aak1972]

Originally Posted by Neck

I don't smoke but to follow this you would have to eat only organic food amd drink no soda, coffee or tea.

Yes yes someone sees my point!!!!!!!